Common to have to re-touch paint on new attachments?

[Musdalen]

I'm new here and have noticed that anyone who publicly questions that particular sponsor of this forum gets all kinds of defensive responses from the members. Seems out of Travis' character, as I've noticed he remains fairly professional and is always quick to correct whatever issue, no matter how small or inconsequential. I get being a satisfied customer and all, but people need to chill out around here sometimes.

5 pages about scratched paint IS a little over the top. Sorry say I contributed to it. This is not a watershed moment in tractordom me thinks.

 

[Farmer495]

GOOD GOD MAN!! IT'S RUINED!

Yup!

Wait til he uses it and the paint wears off the tines.

 

[fried1765]

5 pages about scratched paint IS a little over the top. Sorry say I contributed to it. This is not a watershed moment in tractordom me thinks.

There IS A DISCUSSION here about WHAT TYPE of implement/attachment coating should be used.
IMO ...... THAT is a very valid and worthwhile discussion topic.

 

[Surreal001]

There IS A DISCUSSION here about WHAT TYPE of implement coating should be used.
IMO ...... THAT is a very valid and worthwhile discussion topic.

Agreed. It's the only reason I opened the thread in the first place, but I'll call the rest like I see it.

 

[jeff9366]

This is also a discussion about ETA's commendable success creating new jobs in the Hickory-Newton-Conover area of North Carolina.

However, mediocre paint on ETA implements disgruntles some proportion of ETA's established customers.

Further, this thread discusses why US jobs are lost to Asian competitors. Some jobs are "moved". Other jobs are "lost", often when US manufactures decide customers will not notice/complain (or cease buying) if quality lapses JUST A LITTLE.

The competition is not static. The quality of competing Asian products is improving constantly. (( We like our Kioti and LS tractors. We like our Kia and Hyundai cars. We like quality AND value. ))

Paint remains a weak link in ETA's customer satisfaction.

 

[brown40]

I can't speak to EA or any defensive discussion--concerning the OP comment:
I don't think it is uncommon at all.
Steel is a hard surface to keep paint on when it gets moved a lot, and ideally attachments don't stop moving from the factory to the customer's 3pt hitch. Getting there takes multiple miles, forks and/or pallets, so there's a lot of opportunity through the supply chain.
I have wounded my attachments using and moving them, and I don't have to unload a whole truck, so...
The finish and coating quality is all over the board. With use they immediately begin failing.
I used to look a lot at performance specs and finish for purchasing. I don't give them as much weight as robust and simple design, weight of parts, and weld quality now.
All things equal pretty would be nice, but unless she can plow the field she ain't goin to the prom.

 

[Deere Dude]

ABSOLUTELY TRUE !!
Maybe in the South powder coating is OK, but not in the North!
Rust forms readily under a powder coat chip, .....and .......
Powder coat is brittle ...... chips easily!
Two part epoxy paint is the real answer, but whatever the coating.....
No powder coat!!!

Really? I am from Wisconsin and worked at a John Deere garden tractor and attachment facility. I owned Garden tractors with mower decks since 1970. They were spray painted early on in the factory and within a couple years it seemed they needed to be repainted to keep the rust down. They didn't stay nice looking very long and it was a never ending job.

Then around the late 80s they put in a big powder paint system. Critical to the process is the bath prior to painting. If the dipping solution is bad, the paint won't stick very well. I think that may be some of the problems with trailer manufacturers, but that is a guess.

But since I started getting mower decks that are powder painted the rust problem went waaaay down. Even in the salty solution from the roads. The mower deck I have now is 7 years old and today I noticed I have about 3-4 2" diameter spots need to be touched up. It is just a matter of power wire brushing clean and throw rust reformer undercoat and then some paint on, and it will be good for a couple more years, but at least the whole thing isn't rusty like a non powder coated deck would be.

Epoxy may be better but I never dealt with that.

 

[Snobdds]

This is also a discussion about ETA's commendable success creating new jobs in the Hickory-Newton-Conover area of North Carolina.

However, mediocre paint on ETA implements disgruntles some proportion of ETA's established customers.

Further, this thread discussion about why US jobs are lost to Asian competitors. Some jobs are "moved". Other jobs are "lost", often when US manufactures decide customers will not notice/complain if quality lapses JUST A LITTLE.

The competition is not static. The quality of competing Asian products is improving constantly. (( We like our Kioti and LS tractors. We like our Kia and Hyundai cars. We like quality AND value. ))

Paint remains a weak link in ETA's customer satisfaction.

lol

So lets put some context to your beef.

Since we all know powder coat is the last thing a person wants on an implement, that leaves paint. So the paint sucks you say, ok lets get the paint to showroom quality by using a 2 part epoxy primer, followed by at least 3 coats of a top coat, then we will need to put a UV prohibiter clear coat. Then the paint is good, just like a car off the show room floor.

That would add about $500-700 dollars to every implement. How many people would spend the extra money for a nice paint job that will get scratched off in the first use. Then since no one wants to pay a premium for something that will get abused anyway, EA no longer can hire people and must reduce the workforce. Never mind though, we still have China to supply us with there quality implements.

Paint remains a non issue in customer satisfaction...

 

[Rocky Hoffler]

lol

So lets put some context to your beef.

Since we all know powder coat is the last thing a person wants on an implement, that leaves paint. So the paint sucks you say, ok lets get the paint to showroom quality by using a 2 part epoxy primer, followed by at least 3 coats of a top coat, then we will need to put a UV prohibiter clear coat. Then the paint is good, just like a car off the show room floor.

That would add about $500-700 dollars to every implement. How many people would spend the extra money for a nice paint job that will get scratched off in the first use. Then since no one wants to pay a premium for something that will get abused anyway, EA no longer can hire people and must reduce the workforce. Never mind though, we still have China to supply us with there quality implements.

Paint remains a non issue in customer satisfaction...

I agree on this issue I buy and sell a lot of equipment I don't paint as so people can see what they are getting I realize this is a new piece but EA said they would compensate I have sold numerous sets of disc in great condition except paint is faded or some surface rust and people are happy to get it at 1/3 to 1/2 the cost cause if it was new and they used it it would look the same quickly just IMHO

 

[jeff9366]

ROCKY HOFFLER: You are in the USED equipment business. ETA is in the NEW equipment business.
When I pay for NEW implements I expect them to arrive in NEW condition.

When I bought a refurbished Ford Series 101 plow from Sweet Tractors, Kentucky, my expectations were less. However, that sixty year old, blue Ford plow paint is in remarkably fine shape today. Good paint applied over carefully prepared plow surfaces in the factory. (Actually, probably the Oliver factory.)

So the paint sucks you say, ok lets get the paint to showroom quality by using a 2 part epoxy primer, followed by at least 3 coats of a top coat, then we will need to put a UV prohibiter clear coat. Then the paint is good, just like a car off the show room floor.

That would add about $500-700 dollars to every implement. How many people would spend the extra money for a nice paint job that will get scratched off in the first use. Then since no one wants to pay a premium for something that will get abused anyway, EA no longer can hire people and must reduce the workforce. Never mind though, we still have China to supply us with there quality implements.

Long on heat. Short on light.
Quality paint and quality paint application are not rocket science.