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Concrete columns
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scottbrrtt72
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how about turning the column on it's side on a piece of plywood or something that will slide, attach a chain to the plywood, drag the chain under the house, over the center of the hole where the column is to be placed then attach the chain to your tractor at the other end of the house. pull until you get the new column to the hole, the large end first will fall into the hole.
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scottbrrtt72
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That is a good idea. What about the existing telephone poles? I would think they need to be removed because they are located in key spots for proper support......but how do I get those poles out? Again, I only have about two feet of space under the camp. I am way to lazy to dig by hand under the camp new holes. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Slamfire
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I like the looks of that, but have some concerns about windage. I'd like to put up a pole barn using the concrete piers, but we're on top of a hill, and it gets very windy here at times.
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I've got the same concern about windage. Here's my analysis of this, and it would be great to hear commentary about it. Seems to me that windage could have two different effects: (1) uplift and (2) horizontal sheer.
Uplift is what might pull the post out of the ground or put stress on the metal bracket holding the wooden post to the concrete pier. This can be countered by having sufficient anchoring or horizontal footings at the bottom of the pier, and a sufficiently strong metal bracket at the pier/wooden post junction. At some point the roof will come off before the post comes out or separates at the bracket.
The horizontal forces will tend to rack the building, but this seems no different than any other form of construction. The typical solution here is to sufficiently brace the structure (diagonal bracing and/or strong sheathing). I don't think these forces have much to do with the posts setting in the ground, but more to do with the above ground framing.
Uplift is what might pull the post out of the ground or put stress on the metal bracket holding the wooden post to the concrete pier. This can be countered by having sufficient anchoring or horizontal footings at the bottom of the pier, and a sufficiently strong metal bracket at the pier/wooden post junction. At some point the roof will come off before the post comes out or separates at the bracket.
The horizontal forces will tend to rack the building, but this seems no different than any other form of construction. The typical solution here is to sufficiently brace the structure (diagonal bracing and/or strong sheathing). I don't think these forces have much to do with the posts setting in the ground, but more to do with the above ground framing.
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Where this camp is located I'm not sure windage will be an issue. The camp is really located in the base of two big mountians. Wouldn't the weight of the camp (thousands of pounds) keep it gounded well? We will find out today or tomorrow. Expecting major winds....50+MPH.