Confusion or denial?

[pat32rf]

Makes me think of our German neighbour who bought one of the first Volkswagons in our part of the country....

 

[MikePA]

Confusion or denial?

As others have posted, these are not the only 2 options. While you, or I, might be very displeased, it's their tractor.

If people are happy with their purchase, despite the problems, it's not the 'job' of other TBNers to 'rain on their parade' or accuse them of being confused or in denial (not implying you'd do this). TBNers should be there to;

1. Vicariously enjoy their purchase with them
2. Assist them with resolving the problem (if they ask for help)
3. Commiserate with them (if they ask for it)

 

[RedRocker]

I'm dazed and confused, but won't admit to being in denial.

 

[mboulais]

There are going to be breakdowns with any tractor. Sometimes before warranty runs out, sometimes after.

I had several issues with my Mahindra 4110

1. battery replaced under warranty at 47 hrs for bad cell. Yes, it interrupted work, but overall this was a good experience. The dealer came and changed the battery in my yard and did my engine oil change for free at same time.

2. tractor failed to start due to poor ground in front of a large group of deere fans at a work bee . I had been warned of this problem on TBN and did not check it out before then. My father and I fixed it and we got to work.

3. 4wd was not disengaging all the way due to assembly line error. I was without my tractor something like 5 wks while they figured out what was going on and replaced all damaged parts. I got a used 6000 for a loaner

4. The temp guage functioned erratically at best since 100 hrs. has worked only one day in the last 18 months.


The rest of my problems were operator induced (flat tire, damaged hydraulic lines & filter housing, cracked grille, small dent in hood,etc...)

I like my tractor a lot. I don't think it's confusion or denial.

I chose it for its std features, hp/wieght, and cost. It is a heavy duty tractor that gets a lot of work done. I try to treat it well, but sometimes don't. I don't expect anything manmade to be perfect or to last for ever. It's a lot more tractor than the Massey Harris 333 or the International 384 I had before it. I think most manufacturers are putting out a pretty good product today (even deere ), but once in while there will be problems

 

[Ken_CT]

The chance of something mechanical breaking is.....100%. It is only a matter of time. Nothing lasts forever.

 

[john_bud]

Dunno that I've noted anyone with a trans replacement at 118 hours. Must have missed that one!

2000 Kubota L3410 HST - only issue has been a faulty air restriction sensor and extreme cold weather failure of 3 hydrostat filters. The cold hydro issue appears to be common across makers as temps fall into the -15 to -30F range. Latest model of filter has fixed the issue as far as I can tell.

Tractor isn't perfect, but has been durn good.

1963 Ford 4140 total rebuild by me. Had a failed repro tach (proofmeter) at 11 hours and a catastrophic transmission failure at 20 hours (caused by ahem the rebuilder).

That tractor has also been good.


Maybe I'm in denial, but the biggest expense for the Kubota has been
1) fuel
2) oils / filters
3) grease

For the Ford,
1) fixing my own bone head mistakes
2) fuel
3) grease / oils etc

jb

 

[BrianW]

This is known as the "BMW" or "Lexus" phenomenon. These owners think their cars are the greatest things, yet they need a motor fixed, wear out tires prematurely, break balljoints, have high collision costs and expensive parts. The allure is propagated by the few who seek exclusive bragging rights on a finicky product. Remind you of a gorgious woman? Best to rent or borrow, never own.

I put myself through college on "Fine German Engineering"! Only Peugot out did them in my opinion.

 

[bx23barry]

This is known as the "BMW" or "Lexus" phenomenon. These owners think their cars are the greatest things, yet they need a motor fixed, wear out tires prematurely, break balljoints, have high collision costs and expensive parts. The allure is propagated by the few who seek exclusive bragging rights on a finicky product. Remind you of a gorgious woman? Best to rent or borrow, never own.

I agree, the wife's BMW cost a lot to buy, costs a lot to maintain (4 sets of tires at $600+ a set, brakes at $800, water pump at $250, and new suspendtion parts at maybe $400, plus regular maintainance for maybe $1500 over its 120,000 miles (can't believe it still has the original clutch)), has soft/wide tires that get flats and wear often, but she swears it's brakes and handling have kept her out of two accidents. That alone is worth the cost to us plus the thing is comfortable, fun to drive and gets 25+mpg. My little short narrow regular cab 4x4 1/2 ton gasser hauls the bikes around, enough hay (10-12 bales) for the 2 nags and what ever else I need/want, tows enough trailer (28' toy hauler, 7,000 car/jeep/tractor hauler, 2 horse slant) for the little I tow, all with more comfort (rides pretty smooth) and better handling (I can park in compact spaces) than a 3/4-1 ton with the extra cost of a noisy/smelly diesel I would never recoup because I only have 20,000 miles on it in 4 years. My little tractor won't pull a plow through my hardpan but is about the biggest thing that will fit in the horse stalls and not cleaning them by hand is worth not "deep tilling", and taking a little longer to do other "tractor stuff" to me. It all matters what is important to ya.

 

[cp1969]

... noisy/smelly diesel ...

You forgot to use the word "belching." If you're going to use standard news media diesel adjectives, use them all.

 

[john_bud]

You forgot to use the word "belching." If you're going to use standard news media diesel adjectives, use them all.

I think the media hype term is "noisily belching and spewing smelly diesel fumes".....

jb