Buying Advice Considering an early 70's 830

[prichard]

A friend is thinning his herd and I need a bigger bush hog and ground engagement machine.

What can y'all tell me about these tractors? Easy to work on? Parts available? Is gear tranny like a car manual tranny? Independent PTO means it's not tied to the clutch? Anything else I need to know? I don't mind turning wrenches.

Sorry if these sound like dumb questions but I know nothing about older tractors.

 

[DaBear3428]

A friend is thinning his herd and I need a bigger bush hog and ground engagement machine.

What can y'all tell me about these tractors? Easy to work on? Parts available? Is gear tranny like a car manual tranny? Independent PTO means it's not tied to the clutch? Anything else I need to know? I don't mind turning wrenches.

Sorry if these sound like dumb questions but I know nothing about older tractors.

I do not know much about the 830 but here is some info for you

TractorData.com John Deere 830 tractor information

www.tractordata.com

keep in mind there are 2 versions of the 830 this is the latest one.

 

[prichard]

I do not know much about the 830 but here is some info for you

TractorData.com John Deere 830 tractor information

www.tractordata.com

keep in mind there are 2 versions of the 830 this is the latest one.

Thanks. I found that and found operating manual. I've read pretty much everything I can find. It's hard searching for it since there seems to be a bigger following for the late 50s early 60s 830. Plus I don't think there were all that many produced.

 

[Zebrafive]

A friend is thinning his herd and I need a bigger bush hog and ground engagement machine.

What can y'all tell me about these tractors? Easy to work on? Parts available? Is gear tranny like a car manual tranny? Independent PTO means it's not tied to the clutch? Anything else I need to know? I don't mind turning wrenches.

Sorry if these sound like dumb questions but I know nothing about older tractors.

The transmission requires complete stop to shift gears (1-4) when in range I (2-8) when in Range II. Reverse only gives gears 1-4. You must stop also to shift ranges (I & II) or to reverse.
The PTO is tied to the clutch. It has a two stage clutch. Push clutch pedal part way in and transmission is disengaged to shift gears and/or ranges/reverse. Push it in all the way to disengage the PTO.
Steering could be manual or power. If you want a loader (or it has one) you will want power steering AND side frames. Side frames connect the clutch housing to engine and the front frame support (mounts to front of engine, front axle mount to it)

It could also have vertical or horizonal exhaust.
I think you will find most parts available from JD. Not hard to work on.

 

[RoyJackson]

Parts might be an issue...the 830 was only produced for a couple years.
But, if it runs good...you probably won't need parts too often. I would check with a local dealer to see if parts are available

My first couple Deeres (a 670 and 790) had the non-synchro 2 stage clutch and transmission. There's a bit of a learning curve, but not too bad and I wouldn't hesitate in buying another one

 

[prichard]

Parts might be an issue...the 830 was only produced for a couple years.
But, if it runs good...you probably won't need parts too often. I would check with a local dealer to see if parts are available

My first couple Deeres (a 670 and 790) had the non-synchro 2 stage clutch and transmission. There's a bit of a learning curve, but not too bad and I wouldn't hesitate in buying another one

Non sync is what zebrafive described? Have to stop tractor to shift? Seems weird to start in 8th gear.

 

[Zebrafive]

Non sync is what zebrafive described? Have to stop tractor to shift? Seems weird to start in 8th gear.

Yes, non-synchronized. I normally only use 8th to "road" the tractor. I never use 7th. 6th is the highest I use on my property, usually moving place to place. 4th is highest I use to brush hog. Range II does not get much use (at least for me)
Diesel engines have a lot of torque, they can and will start in 8th.

 

[prichard]

Yes, non-synchronized. I normally only use 8th to "road" the tractor. I never use 7th. 6th is the highest I use on my property, usually moving place to place. 4th is highest I use to brush hog. Range II does not get much use (at least for me)
Diesel engines have a lot of torque, they can and will start in 8th.

Thank you. I'll talk to him this week and maybe drive over there next weekend.

 

[Steve102C3]

I own a 1974 830 since 1998.

It's a great little tractor that punches above its weight.

Mine has a loader.

I've had no problems getting parts from my local dealer and online.

 

[LD1]

Not trying to sway you away, and if it deal is right I'd probably buy too.....but the 830 is not an ideal bushhog tractor IMO. Its rather large and heavy for its horsepower.

 

[prichard]

Thanks for the additional input. He's looking to get around $3k for it, btw. He also has a Ford, maybe 2000? He said similar HP. But no power steering so that likely means my wife can't bush hog with it. She does most of that.

If we weren't about to spend all our money building a house we'd get a new MX. We were both looking at them independently.

 

[Farmer495]

Non sync is what zebrafive described? Have to stop tractor to shift? Seems weird to start in 8th gear.

I used to drive an 1830 (Same as German 2030, but sold in Canada as 1830 to avoid confusion with US built 2030)

I believe this was just a bigger version of the German 830.

Trans was two sticks as described, 8 forward and 4 reverse.

Been at least 20 years for me, but shift pattern was:

Range
I II
R Park

Speed

1 4
2 3


You could certainly shift the speed lever on the move in high ranger if you double clutched it. I did some haulage with it and would shift 1-2-3-4 in high range up and down. No gear grinding.

Also did loader work with it, inline shift I range to R, leave speed in 4th and you had a basic shuttle (clutch needed)

Diff lock is on the left hand side and pedal had a lever so you could hold the diff lock down while using clutch pedal.

 

[Zebrafive]

Range is:

I
II R

If it has Park it is above II

I never tried double clutching

I had the "I" directly above the "R", but when posting it get moved to above the "II". GRRR!

 

[Farmer495]

Range is:

I
II R

If it has Park it is above II

I never tried double clutching

I had the "I" directly above the "R", but when posting it get moved to above the "II". GRRR!

My memory was fuzzy on the range lever, I shifted F-R a bunch with the loader and I remembered the U pattern on the speed lever.

Think this was it:

1830 would have to stop to shift in low range unless rolling while shifting and got the revs right. Not usually the case off pavement. On the road it shifted easy.

 

[dgl24087]

For $3000 I would snap it up. I have a 1530 and it's a beast.

 

[prichard]

Still considering it. I haven't gotten ahold of him lately. He's having some medical issues so it's all on his time.

 

[prichard]

Update. He's finally back to his old self and health. I visited last weekend and checked it out. Looks gtg except needs new front tires. I hope to pick it up in the next couple weeks.