Corona Virus #5

[ptsg]

The Germans kinda ignored this whole ordeal and are now paying severe consequences and it's still just starting. (Ignore the arrow, this was just a picture I just found)



Over here, the Government took forever to close the border and most of the flights, so what could be controlled at first, is now uncontrollable. We're going to get into Emergency State in a couple hours. Up until now, you could land here and go to wherever you needed to go, without a single question asked.

 

[k0ua]

I hope such a event as this will open the eyes of people and government to stop the long term idea of bigger and bigger farms, smaller farms over large areas will be a more robust system when a crisis hits. Food and animal care should not be considered as a industry in the same way as a car factory, it's essential for national security.

Just to the west of where I live are many farmers producing chickens and turkeys to feed the world. Tyson (larger corporate farm) owns the chickens and the feed they eat; the farmers own the farms and the houses and provide the water/electricity/gas and labor to raise the birds up. One of my friends has 6 houses and sells 10's of thousands of dollars worth of birds every 6 weeks. We here in america literally feed a lot of the world. They were looking forward to the deal with China and all of the birds they were going to ship over there as China has a meat shortage. Their swine population has been wiped out recently by swine fever, and they are low on chickens too. How this will shake out now, I don't know. But I suspect the Chinese are still hungry, and we are still raising meat. I have no doubt that American farmers can continue to help feed a large portion of the world including ourselves.

 

[k0ua]

The Germans kinda ignored this whole ordeal and are now paying severe consequences and it's still just starting. (Ignore the arrow, this was just a picture I just found)

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Over here, the Government took forever to close the border and most of the flights, so what could be controlled at first, is now uncontrollable. We're going to get into Emergency State in a couple hours. Up until now, you could land here and go to wherever you needed to go, without a single question asked.

Tell me why the Germans have so few dead people.? Tell me why Italy has so many.

 

[Agvg]

Hope the trend to out source all kinds of drugs and medical equipment to China is stopping, the same with the idea to make essential drugs in China and sometimes to just one factory. We are giving China a trade weapon they can use against all the world, and China are rapidly increasing the pressure and surveillance on the Chinese people, all principles are obviously going out the window when dealing with China's communist regime, everything is Ok so long as you can make money. And China is using more and more of its economical power to stop all critic, when a Chinese dissident got the Nobel peace prize it took a decade before China wanted to have anything to do with Norway, now it's Sweden that gets it, somebody of importance have criticized China and they are trying to force Sweden's government to take action against all that does not please them.

 

[ovrszd]

Just to the west of where I live are many farmers producing chickens and turkeys to feed the world. Tyson (larger corporate farm) owns the chickens and the feed they eat; the farmers own the farms and the houses and provide the water/electricity/gas and labor to raise the birds up. One of my friends has 6 houses and sells 10's of thousands of dollars worth of birds every 6 weeks. We here in america literally feed a lot of the world. They were looking forward to the deal with China and all of the birds they were going to ship over there as China has a meat shortage. Their swine population has been wiped out recently by swine fever, and they are low on chickens too. How this will shake out now, I don't know. But I suspect the Chinese are still hungry, and we are still raising meat. I have no doubt that American farmers can continue to help feed a large portion of the world including ourselves.

I agree. And in times like these we will eat first. There would be no reason to export unless there becomes an excess.

We may suffer shortages of "trinkets" but we'll eat.

 

[ovrszd]

Hope the trend to out source all kinds of drugs and medical equipment to China is stopping, the same with the idea to make essential drugs in China and sometimes to just one factory. We are giving China a trade weapon they can use against all the world, and China are rapidly increasing the pressure and surveillance on the Chinese people, all principles are obviously going out the window when dealing with China's communist regime, everything is Ok so long as you can make money. And China is using more and more of its economical power to stop all critic, when a Chinese dissident got the Nobel peace prize it took a decade before China wanted to have anything to do with Norway, now it's Sweden that gets it, somebody of importance have criticized China and they are trying to force Sweden's government to take action against all that does not please them.

Sad to say, that's human nature. Happens right here on this thread and the four prior ones.....

 

[ptsg]

Tell me why the Germans have so few dead people.? Tell me why Italy has so many.

Probably healthcare system quality is much higher in Germany than Italy.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

The Germans kinda ignored this whole ordeal and are now paying severe consequences and it's still just starting. (Ignore the arrow, this was just a picture I just found)

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Over here, the Government took forever to close the border and most of the flights, so what could be controlled at first, is now uncontrollable. We're going to get into Emergency State in a couple hours. Up until now, you could land here and go to wherever you needed to go, without a single question asked.

Thanks for sharing that data. Clearly we are in the middle of this mess. As long as these numbers keep climbing we know the end is not near. Keep us updated from time to time.

 

[k0ua]

Hope the trend to out source all kinds of drugs and medical equipment to China is stopping, the same with the idea to make essential drugs in China and sometimes to just one factory. We are giving China a trade weapon they can use against all the world, and China are rapidly increasing the pressure and surveillance on the Chinese people, all principles are obviously going out the window when dealing with China's communist regime, everything is Ok so long as you can make money. And China is using more and more of its economical power to stop all critic, when a Chinese dissident got the Nobel peace prize it took a decade before China wanted to have anything to do with Norway, now it's Sweden that gets it, somebody of importance have criticized China and they are trying to force Sweden's government to take action against all that does not please them.

I could not agree with you more. Finding out that 95% of our antibiotics are made in China was a real "eye opener" .. I had no idea. I knew there were other critical things we need made in China and I knew they had us by the "short hairs" on many of these things but I had no idea something as critical as drugs could be used against us as a weapon like the rumblings coming from China from their communist party propaganda organ. I think these things demonstrate that China is still the enemy of the free world. Always have been, but this brings it to light.

 

[/pine]

Food processing plants are not so different than grocery stores etc. when it comes to contamination...The only way to protect the public from such is to constantly monitor all the personnel that comes in proximity of goods...

If one person on a chicken processing line is infected the line has to be shut down...maybe an entire plant?