Corona Virus #7

[shooterdon]

Actually it would be much faster to do coronavirus trials than cancer trials. Many more patients and much faster clinical course. I have no specific knowledge but I遏･ almost certain there are multiple well designed trials underway now. And, you豎*e gonna hear about them first via NEJM or Lancet or from Fauci, not YouTube.

Cytokine 驛ｽtorm is probably the most important target. Coronavirus doesn遞 seem to grow uncontrollably and destroy lung tissue directly. It逞ｴ more likely that it just triggers a host reaction (cytokine storm) that is much more severe in some people than others. Same phenomenon is seen with other infectious diseases. We don遞 know enough about host immune genetics yet to predict which patients are at highest risk and we don遞 have any really effective therapies yet either.

Cytokine storm is kinda like what might happen if you called the fire department to put out a fire in your basement and their response was to fill the basement with water, drowning anyone there.

You are 100% on YouTube. I have not watched any of the crap posted there.

Good to hear the virus trials will be speedy.

Yesterday my fianc? and I were talking about this. We have not been into town for over two weeks. There are no cases in our county yet, and 17 in the neighboring county with a "big" city of 4000. We wondered if getting infected early might have been better. Having to be hospitalized during the peak is going to be a poor option.

We have enough supplies to survive a long time...months. The "problem" is the lack of human interaction....it affects her than for me. She is 13 years younger, and I am at a slightly higher risk...have had pneumonia three times and over 65. We decided to continue to hunker down until the end of April and monitor things. The virus seems to spread quickly and easily so I told her it is not a matter of IF we get infected but WHEN. We are resigned to that reality and hope the trials shed light at possible treatment options. Tomorrow is supposed to be a sunny day. We will pack a lunch, and find a place to have a picnic. We will pack a couple of weapons too...have not needed to do that since we left the suburbs 7 years ago.

Of the many SHTF events we prepared for, this is one of the worst. At least with civil unrest or an attack on the power grid, we could join with our neighbors to fight the "enemy" and help each other. This makes our neighbors threats.

 

[newbury]

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As I glean from sources here and on the news what seems to be needed to kill the virus is to break down the lipid envelope. Apparently that's what zinc does when taken in doses ~10x the MDRs. Topical alcohol needs the much higher percentage than booze except maybe Everclear, soap and water needs the 20 seconds but I can usually spare 30, and bleach always was our friend when properly diluted and not splashed around willy-nilly.

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I'm thinking a bucket of bleach and water for a dip for my hands. Seem to remember sterilizing a lot of milk equipment in my first tax paying job on a dairy farm, made 50 cents an hour.

Someone described the solution to find a treatment, "Chasing after a wagon of hay rolling down a hill, and you're trying to find the needle in that moving haystack."

And the hay is on fire

 

[Diggin It]

December 6, 1941.

US Navy puts up a sign at Pearl ... 'To help contain the spread of the Japanese Empire, we've closed our Lobby and indoor showrooms and are serving customers by appointment or drive thru only. We ask all invading aircraft to maintain a safe distance from each other.'

Cool beans !! No War !!!! 2,300 US Service members saved!!!!

 

[Diggin It]

I am profoundly embarrassed by the extreme level of cowardice displayed by Americans. It's absolutely shameful.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I said it before. Humans have mostly existed in a sea of lies.

I am becoming as disturbed by the inequality (not that I believed equality existed) going on around me, as much as the virus. Rich people and their children hunkered down in their vacation homes while the poor folks (and their kids) are stocking shelves, manning the tills at the Grocery store and gas stations.

Famed neurosurgeon Dr. James T. Goodrich who separated conjoined twins dies from coronavirus complications – The US Sun

This virus will take people out at all levels of success it seems.

 

[ruffdog]

The virus doesn't discriminate.............

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Photo for reason to stay at home today. I really really need to keep my lungs.

‘It is affecting every age group’: 3D video shows extensive damage to lungs caused by COVID-19 | FOX 5 New York

 

[Diggin It]

America, Home of the 'OHMYGOSH IT'S BUG ... EEEEKKKKK!!!!!!! RUN, HIDE!!!!'

 

[ultrarunner]

May 3 is the end of the current shelter in place extension SF Bay Area.

County district attorneys stepping up Enforcement for business deemed non-essential and restricted what was essential... example... low income housing... market rate not essential.

Also all essential business must post compliance policy and procedures to comply

 

[rswyan]

US surpasses China in official coronavirus deaths | TheHill