Corona Virus #7

[locknut]

That doesn't appear to be correct. As of yesterday, Decatur County had 40 cases while Marion County had 676.

Total number of coronavirus cases in Indiana tops 1,5 as surgeon general calls Indianapolis an '''emerging hotspot'''

It's correct on a per capita basis. I didn't bookmark the site,sorry.

 

[MossRoad]

Not much you can do about someone driving on a public road. Maybe get the license plate number, vehicle description, etc... and let your local law enforcement know that there has been an unfamiliar vehicle traveling in the area frequently and ask if they could check it out. That's what neighborhood watch programs will do. Your's should be no different. Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[MossRoad]

It's correct on a per capita basis. I didn't bookmark the site,sorry.

Ahh. Per capita. That can be very misleading. A town with 20 people, one person gets sick, and 5% of the population shows up as affected on a map.

 

[Jstpssng]

My wife and I both ventured out yesterday to get supplies after compiling a comprehensive list. She went to Walmart for food items and I went to TSC and Lowes for feed and hardware. I felt like a germaphobe the whole time. I kept sanitizing my hands every time I got back to my truck and I still felt "dirty". But you're correct, our 14 day clock just reset it's countdown again.

When I got back from my outing, I spread all the items out on my flatbed to bask in the sun and get a good UV soaking. I assume that's adequate for killing the vectors. Not sure I could adequately wipe down all the items I bought.

I have a coffee canister with water and bleach, every time I go into a store I wash my hands upon returning to the truck. Today I picked up some cash to go register my truck... and dunked it right into that same water/bleach solution. Then I realized that the town office is closed for the duration.

 

[houstonscott]

The U.S. Tried to Build a New Fleet of Ventilators. The Mission Failed. – DNyuz

 

[pennwalk]

My BIL has a house on Vinalhaven. There are some rough rednecks up there. His house was badly vandalized. Rednecks on drugs is bad medicine!

Chris

 

[rswyan]

Just heard that a relative apparently has COVID-19 ... about 7 days into it ... quarantined at home and apparently doing well so far.

They're fairly young ... so at least they have that going for them.

 

[IslandTractor]

FDA Says Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine Can Be Used to Treat Coronavirus

I'm not sure if this is good or bad.


It's also used to treat Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis, and some patients have been having problems getting drugs to treat those diseases.
I wonder if there have been any data collected about how people who already are taking these drugs are handling CV-19.

This is bad news. It is evidence that the FDA has bowed to political pressure from the WH to bypass their normal expedited approval process in order to make chloroquine available. Very sad day for the FDA as they will have this hanging over the agency's head for decades to come. Science, not politics, should dictate when expedited approval is given in emergency situations. The FDA head had already indicated after Trump's press conference a week or so ago that chloroquine for coronavirus had not yet met their standards for approval for off label use. There has been no additional data since then, just political pressure. The head of the FDA should resign as this is the equivalent of having the Attorney General arrest someone based solely on pressure from the WH without appropriate investigation. Very sad day.

It also means that it may be difficult now for people with legitimate need for chloroquine to get their prescriptions filled as every yahoo in town is going to pressure their primary care doc to give them a prescriptions "just in case".

The FDA was established about 110 years ago precisely because it was necessary to have some control over snake oil salesmen who where bamboozling the public with "medications" that were either useless or toxic. The FDA has over the past century done an excellent job preventing US citizens from being cheated and poisoned. The scientific process/wall the FDA established works and became a model for other countries. It is really sad to see this black mark on their otherwise proud history.

In case some of you are unaware, the whole business about chloroquine started with a weirdo French physician who treated just over 20 patients. It was not a controlled trial and the outcomes were not so different from what would be expected with no therapy. This anecdotal paper was picked up by two Americans, one a physician who specializes in cryptocurrency speculation and the other a non physician/non scientist, who put together a truly awful and exaggerated "white paper" based on the French MD's unpublished report. Neither is a scientist or has any background at all in virology or public health. They claimed to have worked with Stanford Medical School (Stanford denies this) and University of Alabama Birmingham (UAB denies this too). Here is a link to an article that provides some background (yes, I know HuffPost is not as authoritative as Brietbart or Fox for some of you but read the article for an overview and then do your own research): The Hucksters Pushing A Coronavirus ‘Cure’ With The Help Of Fox News And Elon Musk | HuffPost

 

[shooterdon]

Not much you can do about someone driving on a public road. Maybe get the license plate number, vehicle description, etc... and let your local law enforcement know that there has been an unfamiliar vehicle traveling in the area frequently and ask if they could check it out. That's what neighborhood watch programs will do. Your's should be no different. Good luck. :thumbsup:

Agree...but if they are looking for easy targets...they move on elsewhere. The public road dead ends at my gate. There is a turn off for a two track about 150 yards before my gate. So "traffic" is non existent except during snowmobile or off-roading seasons.

I have "met" trucks heading to our place before and always ask, "Are you lost? Do you need directions?"

 

[IslandTractor]

:thumbsup:

From our resident physician (IslandTractor) - who is an epidemiologist and I believe specializes in infectious diseases - replying to some "info" posted from Facebook (in blue):



See his post here:

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...corona-virus-6-a-post5695012.html#post5695012

To be clear (the quote from my post (my comments were in caps and I was replying to the first sentence) said "The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. VIRUS PARTICLES ARE VERY STABLE AT MINUS 70 DEGREES CELSIUS WHICH IS WAY COLDER THAN A HOUSEHOLD FREEZER. NO EVIDENCE THAT "NORMAL" TEMPERATURES THAT HUMANS LIVE IN MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO HOW LONG THE VIRUS REMAINS INFECTIOUS.")

My point was that in a virus lab we freeze viruses to minus 70 celsius to keep them stable. They are stable for years at that temperature. Putting a virus in a freezer at minus 20 celsius (typical household freezer) will not keep the virus stable and it will deteriorate, especially with thawing and refreezing as in a frostless fridge. However, if you took a virus contaminated object and put it in the freezer for a day or two it might well still have some active infectious viral particles when you took it out. Freezing in a household fridge is not the same as wiping with dilute 1:50 Clorox solution for example.