COVID19 bull

[k0ua]

I have 13 co-workers who are off work and positive for Covid today. 10 of the 13 are fully vaccinated. Seems to be quite common locally.

Yep, do you know how many of the "breakthrough's" were broken through AFTER about 6 months of receiving the last shot?, Or does the shots even have ANY effect on the Delta variant? And does our natural immunity have any effect on the Delta variant? I don't know. But I sure know a lot of folks are getting Covid during this Delta variant surge. Which fortunately is winding down, at least around here.

I fear that some places like for instance Australia and NZ are in for a severe epidemic in the future because they have attempted to keep their countries "pristine" by severe lockdowns and lock outs. It might work for a while, but sooner or later the disease is going to run thru the country because no one has natural immunity.

We will see how this all plays out and if any of my theory's hold any water. But my current thinking is when the majority of us have natural immunity is when this Chinese plague will abate. We will never be "done" with it, just like we are never done with ordinary flu, but where we can live with it and return out lives to the real normal.

 

[ruffdog]

Several studies have now concluded that natural immunity is up to 27 times better than the shots alone.

This study on the CDC site says that an unvaxed person with natural immunity is 2.3 times more likely of reinfection than a fully vaxed person.

Coronavirus Disease 2019

 

[sodamo]

It is tough talking about the response to covid without going POL****** as the response was POL****** from the very beginning. I hope the human race learns from this before the next pandemic.

And that’s a shame. Absolutely no reason it should have been made political, even worse the media stokes that fire constantly. Personally, I refuse to discuss it politically.

 

[Citydude]

Quite the ordeal, Lou. Sorry you are having this challenge.

Fully vaccinated with the Moderna shot, awaiting the booster go ahead. Not that I believe it prevents actually getting Covid, but surely mitigates the severity.

Getting the shot is an individual choice, I respect that. I also respect that we are a community and being unvaccinated contributes to the spread. Most likely, in my opinion, contributed to the variants making it stronger and thus the vaccinated more susceptible.

I do not believe in getting the shot being mandated except as last resort. Shouldn’t have to. Sure is plenty of factual data available, readily available to anybody with one eye/ear open. Not getting the shot is pretty selfish, and can be interpreted as “I care about ME, I don’t really care about family, friends, or really anyone else regardless of any words I may spout”.
PLEASE Don’t be mixing in the community endangering others, especially the kids.

Businesses & Employers should be free to decide how to handle, just make their policy public, then it is our choice to support or not.

As I said, personal decision/choice, not mandate. But there can/should be encouragement and consequences. Don’t want the vaccination, then don’t accept any Covid related benefit. Return any stimulus dollars, unemployment compensation plus up, rent relief, IRS child care, basically any Benefit Covid related. IRS has the info, sign verification of the shot next tax or pay it back.

If that doesn’t work, extend withholding of any tax dollar benefit pending full vaccination, SNAP, Medicaid, any tax credit, or any tax payer funded benefit. And that includes anyone in your household eligible for the vaccine.

I bet it would be amazing how beliefs are tied to a pocketbook.

Of course, we should honor any valid medical or religious exemption. Valid to mean by your current doctor treating your condition and any religion that has publicly stated its validity. Internet practitioners offering exemption in exchange for contribution/donation/fee not acceptable.

I’m not a social media person, but if any here are and wish to spread my suggestions I hope you do.

Pretty clear to me, that the rules posted above have more impact on those being responsible than the self centered spreaders.

A person can spread the virus vaccinated or not.

I got the vaccination to protect me. The "save a life" mantra is sweet but each person has to make decisions on their own. Its not selfish to not get the vaccination, its deciding on whats best for them. I respect that. Selfish is letting thousands of super spreaders across the boarder.

Ask your doctor to explain the difference between the delta or the chi-bug. Odds are, they can't.

No, I will not be posting your divisive post on social media. You must be running for office.

 

[Jstpssng]

I'm looking at it from the other side of the coin. Hospitals here are getting overwhelmed with Covid patients, and around 90% of those are unvaccinated. Meanwhile doctors are being told to put surgeries on hold because there aren't enough support personnel.
It's my understanding that vaccinations don't stop the disease; but they do lessen the severity.

 

[Doughknob]

The whole bloody thing is such a mess; how in the world can we not know after almost two years what exactly Covid is? I have my two shots, it was no big deal; and I really don't care if someone else doesn't want shots. What I want is our lives back before Covid; when I could still buy a tractor and ammo, work at work and not at home, and go wherever the h ell I pleased. Only government could screw this up so bad...

Government is spreading covid? Huh?

 

[Doughknob]

...Cuomo had no authority to issue such an unlawfull and unconstitutional order,......

i'd like to see the law that says he has no such authority, and the constitutional phrase that prohibits him from doing so. Can you post these? Thanks

 

[K5lwq]

I think the resent surge is because people who were vaccinated believed they could not spread it. They went everywhere without a mask and not thinking about maintaining a safe distance from one another.

Then you have people on the other side of the fence that thinks the whole thing is fake. So they just go anywhere and anything they want.

Just be smart about it, wash your hands and do all you can to protect one another. That is the only real answer we have at the moment.

 

[LouNY]

Any power not granted is reserved for the people.

Also any valid "law" has to be passed by the legislature before it gets to the governor.

 

[fatjay]

Gotta get over the first one first. Not to mention the other catastrophes that are raging around the world.