Coyotes getting worrisome

   / Coyotes getting worrisome #21  
We have lost a number of our outdoor cats over the years... seems they are very vulnerable right after getting fixed, perhaps the coyotes smell something, or the cats are not quite as wary as normal. We are down to one outdoor cat right now and the coyotes come into the yard close the house at night, hoping to catch him.. They got his brother perhaps 6 months ago. I'm likely to get a pair of barn cats to put in the shop sometime soon.
 
   / Coyotes getting worrisome #22  
roadhunter - I know for sure there are at least four packs within a half-mile to mile of my house. I can hear them talking back & forth to each other. No idea how many may be in a pack. Some times it sounds like dozens but I would guess, probably, four - maybe as many as 6 or 7.

In the next few years following the loss of my Lab, Tok ( Toklat Charlies Inkspot) I would shoot at them as they traveled along the high rock bluffs around my little lake. I make sure to do this at least once a year. They stay away during the day now - but as I indicated, there is no question, coyotes rule the night.

In all the years I've shot at them, 34 now, I think I may have winged one. One must remember a coyote is like a hot dog wearing a big fur coat.

Besides - from my porch - across my little lake - to the rock bluffs - is a 200 to 300 yard shot and I'm only using a 22 rifle.

My avatar is a shot off my front porch - across the little lake.
 
   / Coyotes getting worrisome #23  
As winter approaches it seems the coyotes start getting nearer. They've done their part to reduce the rabbit and deer populations so now they're running low on food. Lots of open space adjacent to me: hundreds of acres.

I worry about my dog, but I have no fencing, no way of really keeping her from ranging: I'm trying to get fencing up, but it's lots of work and I can only work in the drier portions of the year (that portion has past now, so not until late spring will I be able to resume).

When we do get fencing up, it'll only be around the homestead site (meant to help protect our fowl), we'll be adding electric to the top. I'm a complete believer in electrified fencing: been running layers behind electronet fencing for some 5 1/2 years now and have never lost a single one to a ground-based predator. Have lost two geese in about 1 1/2 years (not sure what happened to the second one, but odds say coyotes were responsible- dog wasn't out). Ducks get wiped out! Latest batch of ducks has been doing pretty good, knock on wood. Ducks and geese get managed- let out and put back in their Run. When fencing is done we'll be getting multiple LGDs (livestock guardian dogs); any coyote that gets inside the fence is going to be looking to get out real fast!
 
   / Coyotes getting worrisome #24  
I firmly believe that normal outdoor human activities will definitely deter the encroachment of coyotes. A pair of big dogs helps, especially at night. Friend down the road is Basque and has a LARGE herd of sheep( > 5000). He has several of those big white dogs - Great Pyrenees. He only looses a very few sheep to the coyotes each year. But his dogs are 100% work dogs and not pets.

As far as fencing - I've seen coyotes & coons climb six foot high chain link - but there was no "hot wire" on top. Badgers will simply dig under.
 
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Last night, the same-sounding pack was much less active and close. They were only loud enough and close enough to wake me twice. I've got the ranch rifle and 12g close at hand, but of course, no daylight sightings and I won't go blasting into the dark. I glassed around some at dusk, but couldn't see anything and the slight rain prevented me from hearing anything. We do have a lion or two around - I'm hoping that they will remain very few, but will help keep the 'yote population in check.

My current theory is that the 'yote population has increased a bunch in the last year, either due to procreation or migration (or both), and they have found plentiful small furry food down in the bottoms, mostly because of a relative lack of predators in previous years. Our mouse and raccoon issues over the last few years attest to this, along with frequent rabbit and squirrel sightings, the occasional skunk, etc.. So now, the small furry food supply is getting thin, they are overpopulated for the habitat, hungry, desperate, and willing to come right up to human-occupied spaces. I know that just killing one or two won't have much impact, but maybe like said, some shooting will increase their fear and keep them a bit farther away until they completely exhaust the food supply and move on again. My hope is that the visit night before last, where they seemed to circle the whole area, was food reconnaissance, and they found that there was not sufficient prey right here. I'll do whatever I can to also discourage their close-in visits with some gunpowder and lead. My F-I-L's Great Pyrenees should also help, but it stays in the goat pen or dog pen. I suspect the 'yotes know that the penned Pyr is not too much of a threat. The wife will have to keep the "house" dogs on-leash for the night-time potty breaks until all that plays out. And keep firearms handy at all times.
 
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   / Coyotes getting worrisome #26  
We had two women in separate incidents on the same day get attacked by a coyote, one who's dog was also bitten.

http://www.whec.com/news/coyote-attack-wolcott/4280754/

I am getting some very large coyotes on my game cameras during daylight hours like this one.

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Thanks for reminding me Deerherd - I've got a couple of unused cameras I need to put up, at least right behind the house where they seem to like to run. Will help me assess just how many I'm dealing with.
 
   / Coyotes getting worrisome #28  
Be interesting to hear the results on the rabies testing. For the most part wild animals won't approach humans; if they do then one should suspect rabies.

Anyone who needs to assert some protection might consider putting up a few strands of electric fencing. If you want to assist in the "training" you can drape some bacon or such over the wires (make sure your dogs are kept away!) and you can then rest assured that coyotes that get bit by your fence will NOT come back.

oosik, yeah, burrowers make me nervous. Thankfully I've had no such issues. For climbers you have to have at least a two wire electric solution of POS and NEG to top your fencing. I can't afford really tall fencing; I also don't want to limit the travel of deer on my property (other than garden and orchard areas).
 
   / Coyotes getting worrisome #29  
JRobyn, do you have a corridor there? This might be perfect for tossing up a segment of electrified netting.

Report on electric fencing's efficacy on controlling coyotes:

https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/jrm/article/viewFile/7094/6706

This is essentially what I'm using for my layers (from another vendor, but same):

https://www.premier1supplies.com/detail.php?prod_id=20170&cat_id=139

Had a cow (wandered over from the neighbor's- no other electric fencing around) touch some of this once and watched it back off quivering like a shaken bowl of jello!
 
   / Coyotes getting worrisome #30  
We used to see 7-9 does in the herd around the house, then we went to 3-4, and I have only see a couple does in the last year or two. I think the Coyotes have just wiped out the deer. We have had coyotes yelping in the back yard within a few feet or the house. I would guess they had gotten a deer and were celebrating. I have found deer skin and legs by the barn and a leg right next to the front porch.

I have seen ONE coyote and that was when we first moved into the house. I went out one morning to go to work and the coyote was walking down the driveway without a care in the world. I surprised him when I opened the door and he ran into the woods, stopped and watched me before running off. Last time I have seen one but we hear them from time to time.

We hear them yelping from time to time, especially late at night. There is a nearby power line and I think they are using that as a K9 Superhighway to move around looking for food. Sometimes they are near us and other times they are else where.

Later,
Dan
 

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