Creating a Lake

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... are you going to be able to get a loaded concrete truck across the dam and back to the spillway?

I'm figuring that the pad will take 2 1/2 yards. There is a five yard minimum on a truck and I'm outside their standard delivery range, so I have to pay extra for them to cross I-20. United Rentals has one yard trailers about 15 minutes from my place. It's a little more work, but I can go at my own pace and get in and out without worry of getting stuck.

A concrete truck back there scares me!!!

Then I'm thinking another two yards for the dam, but its too soon to figure that out yet. I might need three yards.

Eddie
 
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Seems like everything takes me forever to get anything done. I had a few hours Sunday afternoon to set my forms. Sinces it's a simple rectangle, it was pretty easy to get it squared up and level. Then I dug my footings where the block will be to support the bridge.

One of my many mental challenges was to make sure that the water going over the spillway, flowed away from the spillway. I don't want sitting water in there. Even with summer temps being what they are here in TX, the dryer I can make it under the bridge, the happier I will be.

I made three sides of the form out of 2x6's and the discharge side out of 2x4's with 2x6's cut so the concrete would slope down.

I drilled half inch holes in the forms where I want the rebar to go through the forms and tie into the next pour. At the last minute, I decided to drill a hole through the form on the discharge side where I'm thinking I might pour a footing for something to hold back the soil on that side of the dam where the bridge starts. I'm still unsure how this will work out, which makes me nervous. I like to plan everything out to the exact detail, but on this, I'm still in a grey area with several options.

Temps are in the mid 70's right now, so my goal is to pour tomorrow.

Eddie
 

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/ Creating a Lake #2,003  
Nice work Eddie. Now I am confused by the photos. The photos look like the concrete is below grade. I though you wanted to raise the water level UP?:confused:
hugs, Brandi
 
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This is the pad that the water will hit when it goes over the dam. It will also support the block that will hold back the dirt, channel the water and support the bridge. The pad will also add strength to the dam.

Eddie
 
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I went to United Rentals today to reserve a concrete buggy only to find out that they no longer sell concrete. I was relying on this, and took for granted that I could always buy it one yard at a time from them. There are two concrete companies in town that deliver it in ten yard cement trucks with a five yard minimum. They also charge extra to cross the Interestate, half a mile from my house. I wasn't too excited about dealing with them for a three yard delivery and while mentioning this to a friend, I found out about another company that I didn't know existed.

He has 20 years experience doing commercial concrete and after the big concrete companies joined together, he saw a need for a small guy to come in and do smaller jobs, but also be able to do bigger jobs for less. He has quite a few trucks by what I could tell, and they don't have a minimum. Buy one yard or hundreds!!!

Concrete will be $115 a yard and it will be here tomorrow.

Home Depot wants $3.50 each for ten foot sticks of 3/8 rebar, also called #3 rebar. He has 20 ft sticks for $3.60 each, so I bought 20 sticks from him.

Then I cut and tied my rebar.

I'm putting it on 2 ft centers. I doubled it in my footings and extended it outside the forms so it can be tied into the dam and the footing outside the spillway. For the block wall, I put in one stick for every other hole. On the dam side, I added an extra stick so there is rebar in every hole for the first three holes of block. My thinking is that this will add strength to the dam when the water level is full and pressing up against the dam.

While I worked, Oscar went for a swim!!!

Eddie
 

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/ Creating a Lake #2,006  
Eddie,
Do you have any other locations that you could use a some concrete in. Culverts, concrete pads, wash down location. When I dealt with one of the small job concrete companies they gave me more concrete then I ordered and could use. I was not prepared for extra concrete so it went to waste for me. Just a thought.
Rick
 
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Yes, I always dump exta concrete in my parking area that I haven't put rock down yet. A thin, two inch layer will crack and crumble, which works great for adding base rock to the top of it in the future.

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,008  
Yes, I always dump exta concrete in my parking area that I haven't put rock down yet. A thin, two inch layer will crack and crumble, which works great for adding base rock to the top of it in the future.

Eddie

I will keep that in mind the when have concrete left next time. I also have a parking area without gravel that could use some base. Thanks
Rick
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,009  
Well Eddie, I think you are trying to beat the rain the same as me. Wednesday night and Thursday it is supposed to be rainy here and I see the same is forecast for Tyler. I'm trying to get my dam high enough to hold water and really need all of tomorrow and Wed, but it may start raining here tomorrow night. YEOW! I'm gonna be in a full-court press tomorrow.
 
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Jim,

Now that I have a truck coming in with my concrete, I'm reminded of your post asking about my ground conditions and if it will get stuck. I'm good right now, but if it rains, it might be a week or two before I feel confident enough to try again. Tomorrow is perfect, but any later and it will be weeks until I can do it.

Good luck on your dam!!!!

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,011  
Yes, I always dump exta concrete in my parking area that I haven't put rock down yet. A thin, two inch layer will crack and crumble, which works great for adding base rock to the top of it in the future.

Eddie

That is exactly what I did with my left over concrete for my barn's shop.
hugs, Brandi
 
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The concrete truck was something new to me. It mixes the concrete as it comes out and I pay for what I get. I had estimated 3 yards, and used 3 1/2 yards. I'm not surprised, especially when I had him make it a little full so I could have plenty to work with. Some waste, but not half a yard.

Cost was $353

I'm very pleased and looking forward to taking off the forms and starting on my concrete blocks.

Eddie
 

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/ Creating a Lake #2,013  
$353 is a good price! I ordered 2 1/2 yards 2 weeks ago, $360 and change, $140 of it was a fee since I fell below the 6yd minimum.

BTW, Lake looks real nice, if you get the rain their talking about the next few days, you'll have water to spare.
 
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Thanks. I'm still three feet low from what used to be a full pond. Once I get the dam built across the spillway, I will have another two feet to go after what used to be full.

I had to pay $50 for a delivery charge, but they said I can buy just one yard or ten. Same price per yard since they mix it right there as it comes out. While I was disapointed that United Rentals quit selling concrete by the yard, I really like being able to do it this way a lot better!!!!

Now I need 48 full blocks and 12 half blocks. I'm still unsure how many sacks of mortor I'm going to buy, but I'm thinking 12 will be a good start.

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,015  
How was the concrete to work? I've heard that mobile mix could have an excess amount of water as it doesn't have as long to hydrate as in a regular mixer truck but I have no direct experience. I'm thinking it depends on the operator but again, no direct experience.
 
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It was a little wet, but not what I would think a lot more then what I've worked from regular dump trucks. He adjusted the water as it came out and I was happy with it.

If I was doing a house, I would want it dryer, but working by myself in 70 degree temps, it was just right. I didn't have to rush, and it set up quickly enough that I was able to get a final finish on it without waiting around all day.

I'll use them again for sure!!!

Eddie
 
/ Creating a Lake #2,017  
$50 is a good, fair price. i have to order 6 yds to get the $140 fee waived.

For small projects, I don't see how you can beat that little truck. Closes thing to that I have seen around here is only the cement bins/totes you can get with maybe a 1/2 yard premixed
 
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I built the supports for my bridge today.

Eddie
 

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/ Creating a Lake #2,019  
Eddie,
Is that photo of the blocks an optical illusion or is the center support off center? It is looking great. I can not wait to see it finished.
hugs, Brandi
 
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Brandi,

It sure looks like it in the picture. I didn't even see that when I took and posted the picture. It's centered, but I can see what you mean!!

Eddie
 

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