CT225 will crank, won稚 start

[lilranch2001]

Have you looked at engine builders?

 

[GJohnson]

As in, have I considered having the engine rebuilt? Yes, I have. I have a local guy that rebuilds tractors and has been doing that solely since I was a kid, I am about 50 now. That would be fantastic. The problem I have found is for someone to supply parts for that. Bobcat will order parts with a caveat...tell them the exact parts you will want/need before they order. In other words, no rebuild kit through them. I would have to think about exactly what would be necessary for the rebuild part by part prior to them ordering anything. They mean, bolts, washers, seals, bearings, anything and everything separately.

 

[lilranch2001]

I am no deisel guy, my (CT 235 was my first go around with diesel) so I am prolly not much help, but if Bobcat dealers cannot or wont help, Maybe try Michigan Iron, they have a fantastic reputation on TBN

 

[GJohnson]

I will try them if that needs to happen. Right now, I would buy from New Zealand if it were an option. Really frustrating to buy parts for this machine. It just shouldn’t be that way in my mind.

 

[lilranch2001]

Yea, I am sure.....

Sure is weird how a fairly new machine has such low compression, makes one wonder....

Im not sure I have read that any of these machines have had that issue, maybe the reason the market has not felt the need to invest in a kit for it

 

[GJohnson]

Well, in defense of the machine, I have no history of how it was treated prior to me buying it. If you read through this post, you know it has just over 600 hours on it but was obviously not treated very well from whoever owned it. Although it looks near new, mechanically it was definitely abused. Either no/ low oil, wrong oil or simply cranked with ether one too many times. Through bobcat there was never a claim for warranty OR service at all, ever.

 

[lilranch2001]

Yea, all kinds of people in this world......

Have you looked for a "broken" tractor, maybe one with a hydro issue or a broken case with a good engine?

 

[winston1]

Just being a pretty fair shade tree mechanic I would recommend a teardown of the tractor and then order parts needed. The tractor is of no value or use (to speak of) at this time. If you are not able to do this yourself then let that local tractor shop do it. Until you tear it down you won't know what to order. I think you will be able to get all the parts needed. Their on line parts catalogs are very good and Kioti has the same.

 

[lilranch2001]

Winston has been a very good source of info for me since I joined TBN, and I guess he stated much better than I did what I meant when I said about a engine builder......

 

[GJohnson]

Lilranch, I did look for a broken machine. The only one I found sold for $9600! And it wasn稚 clear if it even ran.
Yeah, Winston, I am a pretty good shade tree myself. For me it is a time issue. I have been really busy at work and do not want to start it without being able to complete it. So for this one, as simple as the little three cylinder should be, I think I would be better served having it built. Any more suggestions for parts suppliers would be very helpful. I picked the tractor back up from bobcat on Friday and am waiting to call the Tyler guys you talked about on Monday. I sure appreciate any input you guys share.
Winston, you said 鍍heir online parts catalogs are pretty good and KIOTI has the same? Is there something specific you致e seen?

 

[winston1]

Parts Finder Michigan Iron & Equipment Morrice, MI (855) 265-459

Bobcat Genuine Parts Catalog – Official Bobcat Company site

Not specific, just good part drawings and part numbers.

 

[milkman636]

600 hours is the recommended interval to check valve adjustments on my CT335, and I imagine the CT225 is probably the same. Have the valve clearances been checked yet in this process?

 

[John White]

GJohnson: Haven't seen any new up dates on your tractor. I read your all the posts on it. I went through almost the same thing. I bought a CT335 with cab off Ebay at auction. (I had not looked at it) . I don't know how but when I picked it up they did have it running. But I could tell something wasn't right. Got it home and would not start. The only way I could get it started was spray a little wd40 in it. I went through all the hoops you did about cleaning the tank, checking fuel filter, shut off valve , solenoid stop valve. After messing with it for over a month I decided things had to come apart. First of all this tractor had only 3323 hours (2012) It had a back hoe on it and I checked the oil filter and trans filter and the numbers written on them indicated that oil filter was changed in 2013 with 320 hours. So that meant that it had only about 7 hours on it since 2013. I also found a old ad on the net where another dealer had it. So all that told me that it had a problem for a long time. I called Columbus Bobcat and they could offer no suggestions as they had never worked on one. Went to a Kioti dealer and they acted like I had the cova virus. So that left me with one option, tackle it myself. I narrowed it down to compression, injector problems or pump. No one that I knew of had a compression tester for diesel. So I bought one from HF. This one has AC on it so a lot of things had to be tore off. Ran compression test. 400 lbs. Took injector to a diesel repair shop. They tested ok. Their advice that there must be something wrong with the pump. I wasn't crazy about getting into the pump but that my only solution. Took the pump in and they tested it and said it was bad. Said they could rebuild it. Took time to order parts as Bobcat or Kioti coulsn't get the parts. They spent a couple days working on it and every time they got it together and put it on the test machine, it tested bad. Finally they (showed me) found out that when the pump was made the threads on one cyl. was not cut deep enough and would not all the plunger to make full travel and pressure. Said it never run right when new. After about $500. and a lot of knuckle busting I have a nice tractor. Love it. Needed a grill for it as it was bent up pretty good. Not available through Bobcat. Went to Kioti dealer and they wouldn't even look it up, said go to Bobcat. Michigan Iron came through and sent me the Kioti # and I ordered it. Hang in there and keep us posted on results.

 

[GJohnson]

I am sorry for not posting about this tractor. Very busy time of year, work wise. So after having gone through bobcat, learning I had low compression, among other tests to components, I took it to my local guy. He tore into it and found all three pistons to be burnt. In looking at them, they are burnt all in the same place. Just where the injectors would spray. It is my belief that someone either filled it with gasoline or used ether on it. Glow plugs work fine so I lean toward the gas. No scarring on block, took head to machine shop, no issues but reworked the seats, etc. So, here is where I am now...it will be four months through bobcat to get three pistons, rods, pins,etc. I would like to ask if anyone knows of a supply where parts are available here in the states? Kioti will not help, daedong North America references me right back to bobcat. I would sure like to wrap this up as it has been ongoing for months. Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys!

 

[GJohnson]

Hey there... just looking to see if anyone might have any ideas on supply. Hoping not to wait for months for these...

 

[crashz]

The previous poster mentioned Michigan Iron (a site sponsor and Kioti dealer). Maybe he can help?

 

[GJohnson]

Hello, all. Well, the little ct225 is finally running. I have had it back about a month now and put some solid hours on it. I have to say, I am very impressed. Never had a compact or a HST before, except a lawnmower...really easy to use. Hydraulics are quick and strong, pushed over a half dozen 6” trees and dig them up no problem. YoPan hollies are wild on my place so this should be a lot of fun. Anyway... after getting the necessary parts to the US, they sat in port for weeks. That was aggravating. But they did have exactly what we ordered plus some flat gasket that we didn’t order. Got it all put together and purring like a kitten. I appreciate all who gave advise and pointed me in the right direction. Happy with it for now. Sprayed about 150 acres pulling a 500 gallon sprayer, up hill, down hill sideways, even through some muddy bottom land...no problems. Thanks again, all!

 

[winston1]

Good to hear your up and going. What company sourced your parts?

 

[GJohnson]

Winston, I was really limited to bobcat. North texas guys, the store south of Dallas Was closest to me. He (My local guy) did an excellent job of putting it back together very thorough. Changed every fluid, every filter, greased it up real good, heck he even built me a battery hold down. Wasn’t cheap...but it is right. He has my 1086 now for a fuel issue. Trustworthy guy.