Cutting 3/8 plate?

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MrJimi

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I am going to purchase 2, 4' X 8' X 3/8" plate steel for Skidsteer attachments backing plates.
I do not want to torch cut or plasma because I do not own either one.
I had in mind of a Makita 7 1/4" and a metal cutting blade.
I know this will be loud and emit lots of sparks and take some time, I have more time than money LOL
Any and all ideas will be considered.
Thanks
Jim
 
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I went out and bought a chop saw from farm and fleet (on sale for $100) when I was in need of cutting .5x3''x12' of flat stock and 20' of 2x3 tubing when I built a new improved disc frame. Money well spent and cut that stuff like butter in no time. As far as using a cirular saw I think you might burn it out. Anyway I've found more stuff to cut for other projects so was well worth the purchace.
 
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I've cut 1/2" plate with a 4.5" grinder but it wasn't much fun. It was a few feet of cut and made lots of sparks. Got a jigsaw? I've cut a good bit of plate with the metal cutting jigsaw blades.

Wouldn't really consider chucking a metal blade in my circular wood saw. Would love to see the results though.

I bought a torch set and just need bottles. The torches aren't too expensive.
 
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Anything short of a torch is gonna be a lot of work on 1/2" stuff. It will take a lot of gas, but that's still the easiest way.

ron
 
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If you know the size's for each backing plate then you could just have the place where you purchased the steel sheer it to size. I have seen them sheer some thick stuff so I would guess 3/8 wouldn't be a problem.
 
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Was that 2EA 4FT X 8FT sheets of 3/8" plate, OR 4" x 8FT strap? If 4" strap, go buy a chop saw as you will burn up a circular saw trying to do much cutting on 3/8" plate.

If it is 4' X 8' plate, a torch or a plas is your best bet. Another option is possibly to get the major cuts done by the people providing the steel. A 4' X 8' plate of 3/8" is pretty difficult and sometimes dangerous to move around without the right equipment to do so properly. If you can get the major shapes(squares and rectangles) sheared by the supplier, you will probably be time and money ahead as a few cuts shouldn't cost that much from the people with the right equipment to do it properly. If your plans are to turn that 4' X 8' into a lot of little parts, you should probably bite the bullet and get a torch as you will spend a long long time trying to cut them with anything else.

I used to be a welder and am really surprised I have gone this long without getting at least a torch. I am about to now as I have some frame work to do on some trucks. Before I would use a handheld circular saw, I would recomend a large jigsaw or sawzall with bi-metal blades. I built a fork bucket for my tractor last summer with a chopsaw and a hand held jigsaw with bi-metal blades to cut the triangular gussets that support the 11 forks. That was 6 cuts about 12" long in 1/4" strap(cut 6" X 12" strap corner to corner) that took about 10 minutes each to complete. This actually worked well as it gave me a chance to stay within the duty cycle limits of my welder. If you use a sawzall/jigsaw, you want one with a blade holder that will hold the entire blade width. In thin stock, the blade wears in a very narrow area. With the right type blade holder, you can break off the base of the blade in a vise and re-insert it into the saw to cut with a new section of teeth. When cutting thin stock, I can usually break off a standard sawzall blade about 4-5 times and use nearly all the teeth on the blade before I need a new blade.
 
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Unless you have a lot of time and money to buy blades, you'd likely be money ahead to just have someone cut it. I have a 4' X 8' table in my shop that I built and it has a 1/2" plate steel top. I had to cut out a section for it to fit around a post in my barn. It took me maybe 30 seconds to zip out with my plasma cutter. If you can transport the metal to a place with one, you'd be far ahead. Even with 3/8" plate, you will be hours and hours trying to grind through it. If you want to use a 4 1/2" grinder you better get a few cases of disks and set aside a few months. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I have a friend in the sheet metal business. He has a computer controled plasma cutter that will accept a 4'x10' sheet of metal. He can program it to cut any pattern you can draw on the computer. A shop with this rig near you would be a bargain compared to the time and effort you are talking about spending.
 
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Jim, There's no way around it. To do what you want to do, you need plasma or a torch set. I have a torch set, but it was 500.00, 20 years ago. You can get a cheapy plasma for about 400. The time it is going to take you the way your thinking of doing it is worth that much.
 
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I made a phone call to the metal supplier today and they could not shear it? I will make a phone call to another place in the morning! ( there are advantages to living in a large city )They are good. They supplied the steel to build the boat they used in the movie ( octopussy, with James Bond )
I have a complete torch set ( the tank rentals kill ya ) and 2 chopsaws and millermatic 200 and a Hobart MIG for small stuff
I will keep all of you posted with Good pictures and good detail.
The items I will be making are mainly for a skid steer , but can easly work on your tractors
Jim
 
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I used to cut all my steel with a circular saw...well..several saws.
Now,I use my 7 inch grinder for much work that needs a straight edge.Finding and paying for good thin cutting blades can be a hassle,but I use the worn down ones in my 4 1/2 grinder.
44 years old and finally got a torch set!!
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( you will be hours and hours trying to grind through it. If you want to use a 4 1/2" grinder you better get a few cases of disks and set aside a few months. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

I'm with Dargo here, but I'd add another grinder to the list. That much grinding will either burn it out, or age it enough to need replacing anyway.

This could cost you allot of money in materials and when your done, it's gonna be a lousy looking cut.

If apperances aren't important, call a welder with a torch and pay him to cut it for you on site. I'd bet what he'd charge you will be close to what you'll pay in blades and a new grinder.

When I buy really thick material, I pay the extra charges to have them cut it to sizes I can work with. To me, it's cheaper and safer.

Eddie
 
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MrJimi,

Are you talking about the Makita 7 1/4 metal cutting saw? If you are they work great. I bought a Milwaukee for my father last year for father's day. He has cut 5/8" and 3/4" thick steel with no problem. I picked up some extra steel he had laying around a couple of weeks ago to start on some pallet forks. He sent the saw with me, since he wasn't using it for any projects right now. I am really impressed after using it. It is best to clamp down what you are cutting if it is not real heavy. There are almost no sparks, since they are kept inside the blade/ chip guard. There are cutouts to follow your marks on the steel. It is very easy to cut straight and stop where needed. I see Harbor Freight now sells one for $99.99 and so does Northern. Do a search on Amazon for metal cutting circular saws and you should have most of them pull up. I imagine the HB or Northern do not have as much power as this Milwaukee, but for the price would be nice to have around. The welding shops around here also carry them as do the Snap On man. I will attach a few pictures of some 1/4" I was cutting for a couple of brackets. The side (around 44") was cut and the notch. The 44" cut took approx 30 sec. Not much different than say cutting plywood with a circular saw. I have also cut quite a bit with a sawzall before and can be done nicely with some practice. You need to angle the saw back and use the correct teeth per inch for the steel you are using. You will still a fair amount of blades over time that could be put toward one of these metal cutting saws. Jigsaws are way too slow. If you are talking about just putting a metal cutting blade (like a chop saw) in a circular saw, it does not work great, like everyone mentioned. Lots of sparks and slow. You will also probably melt your blade guard if it is not metal.

Good luck,
Russ
 

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MrJimi please have your supplier shear these plates out for you. It will be pennies on the dollars it will cost you in time even more time than money. Ob1 /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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I am calling metal supplier in morning, The cost for cutting will be right up there and the saw that 1savoy speaks of is like $359. and after the cutting, I still have saw /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif for next projects. I like the saw purchase idea for the great tool.
I will find out for sure in morning, the 4' X 8' X 3/8' plates are only $220. each and weigh 490# each
Thanks
Jim /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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