Dangerous times even in small town

   / Dangerous times even in small town #141  
The very reason I bought insurance from USCCA.

His case is still on going. His lawyer has it put off, and then the other guy's lawyer has it put off.
He has paid thousands in legal fees, but none yet to the guy he shot

Why my point is to show that you avoided a confrontation at all costs, even in your own home. Generally, if you can show you retreated and gave the intruder mulitple occasions to get out of dodge, I don't see even the legal system being that stupid as long as you can show that you tried to avoid a confrontation.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #142  
I just can't with these posts form you.

Here is the REALITY is this. Kidde sold millions of fire extinguishers last year. Most will never be used. Most people will go through their entire lives without ever experiencing a house fire of any kind. So therefore, having smoke alarms and fire extinguishers is unneeded and paranoid.

Not sure there is any penalty, and practically no consequences to using a fire extinguisher when it's not really needed. Maybe pulling a fire alarm will get you a fine if you over react. can't say that is true if you pull a gun or use a gun when it wasn't 'necessary' - and that is often defined AFTER the fact.

I have used fire extinguishers and I bet if you ask around many people have.


You speak to thousands of people re: if they ever used their guns for defense? Cool. I'll spot you 10,000 people. Violent crime rate in the US is 386 per 100,000 people. Shrink that down to 10,000 and you are sub 40. Now it is safe to assume that a lot of the violent crime happens in urban environments. Let's cut that violent crime rt in half. So in the 10,000 people you speak to about this, it is likely less than 20 have been a victim of violent crime. Of those 20, how many were armed at the time and could have defended themselves? PA has about a 10% rate of LTCF (CCW) for the population. I doubt many carry every day. So basically, your sampling size means almost nothing.

Statistics can be manipulated - 3 out of 4 dentists say use this toothpaste. Well, I just keep asking dentists until 3 of 4 say what I want - I may have to ask 20,000 to get the 3 in a row. It's true - but not accurate.

11% I've heard before. Would like to see the details behind that. I live a county of 168,000 folks. Figure what, half are kids, so 80,000 adults. 5,000 permits are issued by our county sherrif. Well below 11%. By my math anyway.

And MANY have a CCW in PA because of a bad law - you can legally have a gun in your car IF: going from/to home and gun store, range or hunting (with a hungtin license). If you stop FORANY REASON - gas, piss, eat - you have committed a felony. Bye Bye guns. Unless you have a CCW. PA is also an open carry state - fine, until you get in your car then it's concealed...felony again. I guess you could argue walmart is a gun store...LOL


Move someplace safe. OK, please tell me where safe is. Over the last 20 years, as a percentage, towns with less than 10,000 people have seen a growth in violent and non violent crimes. They are still the lowest, but there has been a measurable uptick, while most urban areas have seen a measurable downturn. Urban areas are still way more violent, but the statistics hold.

I assume you have some device that predicts when and where crimes will happen. Please sell me a copy of that device, and I will never be a victim of crime.

Common sense has a LOT to do with being safe. Where you shop, when, where you park, how you walk to the store from your car, how you carry yourself, etc, etc. While nothing is 100% certain, other than you probably won't be hit and killed by a bus in a corn field, you are in control of much of your safety.

Walk near the curb and look around - vs walk next to the building looking at your phone.
Shop at 8 am not 10 pm.
Lock your doors (car, home). Look before you get out of your car in a parking lot - park near a light, near the door vs out in the boonies at the edge of the lot.

Like driving a car with 250k miles and nearly bald tires and a 6 year old battery...vs a 3 year old car with 40k and new tires and battery..which is 'safer', more reliable?


I know, I will only go to church, those are safe.
Or I will only go to "gun free zones" because those are safe.
Or I will only frequent businesses that proudly sow "NO guns allowed" because those are safe.
Wait a minute. Bad things happen in those places as well, sometimes terrible things.

Your, and I am being extremely loose with the word here, "logic" is flawed at best.

I live in PA. I live in an area where nothing ever happens, and I carry every day, no matter where I go, and have a firearm within reach in every room in my house. Why? Because you never know when the bad thing will happen. I am not paranoid, nor a Rambo. I have no desire to EVER use my firearms to take a life.

That being said, I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Where is safe, or safer or safest?

Default map came up in DC area - 61 incidents. My area (below), 0.
Two a day vs NONE in a month.

Yes, you CAN choose where to live.

CrimeReports™


Then there is this - Home Burglary Statistics: Will Your Home be Broken Into?

Stats say 1 in 36 homes will be burglarized this year. Wow. Someone must be getting robbed every other week or something. That same stat could be read that every 36 years every home will be burgled. Well, that may be true - had a neighbor kid steal some toys from my house when I was 11, and in my late teens someone was in our apartment and went thru some drawers. BUT with 4500 residents in my zipcode, figure what, 3 people/house? that's 1500 homes, or 42 burglaries a year. I'll have to ask my cop friends when I see them next if that is close or off by a lot.

Now figure how many of those are with someone at home...cause a gun in every room does you no good if you're not htere - may just give the burgler a nice pile o guns to fence.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #143  
Or just "Run Forest,Run" Probably not many perps could hit a running target, especially with a weapon held in the horizontal position! lol

I read if confronted run AT the bad guy. At an angle of course. Makes it very hard to hit a target if it's coming at you (so they say) and the angle makes it harder yet (moving target!) - and when running AT the guy, well, if someone runs AT you the natural instinct is to retreat and run away yourself - so you confuse his reptile brain for a few moments. If you're close (15 feet say) then you can be on him before he can/will shoot you.

Best defense then is a bear hug and fingers in his eyes. NOBODY but NOBODY will continue the fight blind. Ever.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #144  
Guess where I live? :rolleyes:

South Bend, Indiana...

And that's just a two week map....


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   / Dangerous times even in small town #145  
Where is safe, or safer or safest?
..

Yes, you CAN choose where to live.

...

But you don't get to choose those who live near you.

We live in a quite area but a few years ago a family moved in. They have drug issues which has begat crime issues. At one point, they had a man living with them that attacked a neighbor and we had several B&E's in nearby houses. This guy was arrested. The guy owning the house has been arrested NUMEROUS times that I know about but they are low level, non violent crimes so he gets out. Guy is paranoid as all get out. Many BRIGHT flood lights surround the house. Gee, I wonder why...:confused3:

One choose where to live but that does not stop trouble moving to your hood.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #146  
Your local police department should get an armadillo.....

We've had it here for about 3 years. The trouble moves along once it knows it's being watched.

 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #147  
Your local police department should get an armadillo.....

We've had it here for about 3 years. The trouble moves along once it knows it's being watched.


The only thing I got out of watching that video is that it seems people don't own a lawn mower in South Bend.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #148  
The only thing I got out of watching that video is that it seems people don't own a lawn mower in South Bend.

Just a few years ago we had a 40% home vacancy rate. You read that right. Four(4) out of every ten(10) houses within the city limits were vacant(vacant).
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #149  
"I was in fear of losing my life" and "I want my lawyer".
Exactly right. And "look...he has a knife in his hand.(Forget my fingerprints are on it).

Careful staging that. Forensics files had a case were the perp was caught partially because the body had his hand clenched around the weapon. Death would have released the fingers. repositioning them around the weapon is "highly' suspicious.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #150  
20 minutes is pretty much the normal response time around here in rural areas.

A lot more in many places in my county. I was county dispatch one night about 2am - no police (state or county) on duty. Guy calls reporting he is holding a juvenile at gun point he caught trying to steal gas. Response time on that full code was about 35 minutes. Time it was over, about 8am, we had 3 juvenile runaways that had stolen a car and several weapons from the county north of us.
 

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