DC amps vs AC amps

   / DC amps vs AC amps #11  
What rod, amp setting and thickness of steel are shown in your picture here?

that is 1/4x2x2 angle welded to 1/2x3x3 angle welded to 3x3x.188 hss.

welded fairly hot.

how about some pictures of the welds you are having trouble cleaning?
 
   / DC amps vs AC amps
  • Thread Starter
#12  
how about some pictures of the welds you are having trouble cleaning?


Well today it was totally different, turned the amps down a little, and the slag was almost coming off by itself. I was custom making square tubing to the size I wanted. Ripped some 4x4 length wise and spliced 2 pcs together to get 4x5.5" for storage boxes on my QH.

Took some pictures, not very flattering I know, but I knew I had to grind it flush, the finished product came out ok. when I was welding the box to the QH, both members corners are rounded, so the weld is down in a little bit of a hole. With those welds, the slag would not release again. didn't get any close up pics though, but you can see what I'm talking about in the finished product pic.

JB.
 

Attachments

  • DSC04418.jpg
    DSC04418.jpg
    541.2 KB · Views: 241
  • DSC04420.jpg
    DSC04420.jpg
    640.9 KB · Views: 250
  • DSC04414.jpg
    DSC04414.jpg
    426.9 KB · Views: 225
  • DSC04422.jpg
    DSC04422.jpg
    471.4 KB · Views: 284
   / DC amps vs AC amps #13  
My pic was 5/32 7018AC. It's all they had at National Welders. I don't remember the amps but it was on the high side using a DC inverter.

Your project turned out nice. It looks like you are over-manipulating the rod. Try just dragging the flux against the workpiece very slowly in a straight line, almost letting it lay there and welding at the rate it is consumed. With 7018 the puddle will spread by itself. If you leave cavities or porosity the slag might stick hard. With 7018 I get cavities if I go too fast, too cold, too much weaving. Porosity if I stick it and the flux flakes off. Too hot, too slow it might look like this.
 
   / DC amps vs AC amps #14  
when I was welding the box to the QH, both members corners are rounded, so the weld is down in a little bit of a hole. With those welds, the slag would not release again. didn't get any close up pics though, but you can see what I'm talking about in the finished product pic.

that's a common occurrence in that sort of joint, especially if you have undercut along one or both sides. i wouldn't worry about it falling off though.:)

every welder has their own ideas. some overlap, some don't. we generally seem to get the job done though.

one observation i have made over the years is that people will let the puddle chase them around (literally). experienced welders understand that it is vitally important to take immediate control of the puddle. inconsistent beads are often a sign that the puddle is chasing the welder... the welder doesn't understand how to control the puddle, so he/she runs away from it.

there is at least one demon that every welder has to face.;)
 
   / DC amps vs AC amps
  • Thread Starter
#15  
Your project turned out nice. It looks like you are over-manipulating the rod. Try just dragging the flux against the workpiece very slowly in a straight line, almost letting it lay there and welding at the rate it is consumed. With 7018 the puddle will spread by itself.

Thanks,
I have to remember that, I know I heard 7018 was a drag rod but yeah I guess i'm not practicing that.



that's a common occurrence in that sort of joint, especially if you have undercut along one or both sides. i wouldn't worry about it falling off though.:)

every welder has their own ideas. some overlap, some don't. we generally seem to get the job done though.

one observation i have made over the years is that people will let the puddle chase them around (literally). experienced welders understand that it is vitally important to take immediate control of the puddle. inconsistent beads are often a sign that the puddle is chasing the welder... the welder doesn't understand how to control the puddle, so he/she runs away from it.

there is at least one demon that every welder has to face.;)

That one problem I have, I can't always see the puddle that well. I hear everyone talking about watching the puddle. Maybe the way I'm holding the rod, which is all over the place, or maybe my shield is to dark. I have an auto dark helmet now, I think it's set to mid settings.

Another problem I have is so basic, I have trouble holding steady, especially on longer welds, some times I catch myself holding my breath, not holding the rod close enough etc etc.

Then sometimes a demon takes over me and I get a weld that surprises me :laughing:

Pics of some decent looking beads on 1" and 1/2" thick snowplow parts and 3/4" 3pt lift arms. Don't remember what rod was used, but often if I could use 7024 I would. lately 7018 has been the rod of choice, if I can get better with it, it would probably be all I would ever need.

JB.
 

Attachments

  • DSCN6802.JPG
    DSCN6802.JPG
    886.1 KB · Views: 183
  • DSCN6797.JPG
    DSCN6797.JPG
    888.1 KB · Views: 190
  • DSCN6788.JPG
    DSCN6788.JPG
    993.1 KB · Views: 196
  • DSCN6782.JPG
    DSCN6782.JPG
    975.1 KB · Views: 222
  • DSCN5886.JPG
    DSCN5886.JPG
    984.8 KB · Views: 193
  • DSCN5891.JPG
    DSCN5891.JPG
    964.3 KB · Views: 211
Last edited:
   / DC amps vs AC amps #16  
To each his own, but I never just drag 7018.
 

Attachments

  • Overhead weld.jpg
    Overhead weld.jpg
    35.6 KB · Views: 390
   / DC amps vs AC amps #17  
Thanks,
I have to remember that, I know I heard 7018 was a drag rod but yeah I guess i'm not practicing that.





That one problem I have, I can't always see the puddle that well. I hear everyone talking about watching the puddle. Maybe the way I'm holding the rod, which is all over the place, or maybe my shield is to dark. I have an auto dark helmet now, I think it's set to mid settings.

Another problem I have is so basic, I have trouble holding steady, especially on longer welds, some times I catch myself holding my breath, not holding the rod close enough etc etc.

Then sometimes a demon takes over me and I get a weld that surprises me :laughing:

Pics of some decent looking beads on 1" and 1/2" thick snowplow parts and 3/4" 3pt lift arms. Don't remember what rod was used, but often if I could use 7024 I would. lately 7018 has been the rod of choice, if I can get better with it, it would probably be all I would ever need.

JB.

I weld two-handed--that really helps controlling the rod.
I use a Hobart Stickmate AC/DC welder. DC+ for 1/8" 7018 rod. Set the amps according to material thickness. Tap the rod on the side of my weld table to remove the flux on the tip of a new rod. Then start the bead. Drag the rod SLOWLY and watch the edges of the puddle to be sure you're getting good tie-in. The flux pops off with light taps from the hammer.
 
   / DC amps vs AC amps #18  
That one problem I have, I can't always see the puddle that well.

i don't know what your vision is like, but maybe try a set of reading glasses, or a cheater lense in your hood. if you can't see, you can't weld. :)
 
   / DC amps vs AC amps
  • Thread Starter
#19  
I weld two-handed--that really helps controlling the rod.
I use a Hobart Stickmate AC/DC welder. DC+ for 1/8" 7018 rod. Set the amps according to material thickness. Tap the rod on the side of my weld table to remove the flux on the tip of a new rod. Then start the bead. Drag the rod SLOWLY and watch the edges of the puddle to be sure you're getting good tie-in. The flux pops off with light taps from the hammer.

I use to weld one handed, but after seeing pictures of welders in the catalogs, all using both hands, I realised if they use 2 hands I should too, definitely helps.

i don't know what your vision is like, but maybe try a set of reading glasses, or a cheater lense in your hood. if you can't see, you can't weld. :)

I do wear glasses, but I can see good enough, it's more like I can't see through the arc, probably has to do with the way I hold the stick.

Just now thinking about it, Probably also has to do with my AC upbringing and the shower of sparks/spatter, kinda like spray and pray. Never really trained myself to focus on the weld puddle.

JB
 
   / DC amps vs AC amps #20  
This may help you.
 

Attachments

  • Lens Shade Selection.jpg
    Lens Shade Selection.jpg
    232 KB · Views: 231
  • Lens Shade Selection 2.jpg
    Lens Shade Selection 2.jpg
    196 KB · Views: 199

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

INTERNATIONAL FARMALL 1066 TRACTOR (A51247)
INTERNATIONAL...
INGERSOLL RAND INDUSTRIAL AIR COMPRESSOR (A51248)
INGERSOLL RAND...
UNUSED CFG QH12R EXCAVATOR (A51247)
UNUSED CFG QH12R...
2015 Terex PowerScreen TrakPactor 320 Crusher (A50322)
2015 Terex...
UPDATED INTERNET BUYER'S PREMIUM TERMS (A50775)
UPDATED INTERNET...
Trojan 5T-45 36in Hydraulic Thumb Excavator Attachment (A51691)
Trojan 5T-45 36in...
 
Top