Dealer markup on NH compact tractors?

   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #21  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( just the ludicrous idea that there is no room for negotiation so no point in bothering.
Who said this?)</font>

I am generalizing several threads into my comments because I’ve seen the same kind of comment on most brands and obviously a dealer is going to say there’s not much if any room to move on price. But the most recent that caught my eye was the thread linked below. There are plenty of other threads similar however, some of them far more ridiculous but I didn’t keep them in my bookmarks.


from the orange thread on negotiating


Having read on TBN for about a year now I will say the Kubota thread is the one where you’ll see the most questionable information on pricing and “price checks” where a relatively high price is called reasonable. You’d almost think maybe you should offer more than they’re asking because they might not have any left if you don’t.

The one thing common to most pricing questions is people claiming to have saved _ _% by buying brand X etc. That is also useless without saying what they paid. Comments that don’t include specific price for specific items are of little comparable value. Also if one gets similar prices from several dealers without us knowing what those prices are they may have all been equally high or equally reasonable. If a price was reasonable to begin with then yes there is no room for negotiation, but many dealers are quoting people MSRP prices and hoping the buyer accepts that. What possible reason could there be for trying to hide even MSRP’s? They are only useful if you dig deeper into what discounts others are offering, but by hiding MSRP you make it easier for a dealer to try and price higher IMO.

I suppose the bottom line on any deal (especially on a new more so than used) is the dealer needs your money more than you need his tractor. If you’ve done enough homework and are price conscious and don’t like the deal, go to another dealer. If you have money to burn, accept what he throws at you.
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #22  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( just the ludicrous idea that there is no room for negotiation so no point in bothering.
Who said this?)</font>

I am generalizing several threads into my comments because I’ve seen the same kind of comment on most brands and obviously a dealer is going to say there’s not much if any room to move on price. But the most recent that caught my eye was the thread linked below. There are plenty of other threads similar however, some of them far more ridiculous but I didn’t keep them in my bookmarks.


from the orange thread on negotiating


Having read on TBN for about a year now I will say the Kubota thread is the one where you’ll see the most questionable information on pricing and “price checks” where a relatively high price is called reasonable. You’d almost think maybe you should offer more than they’re asking because they might not have any left if you don’t.

The one thing common to most pricing questions is people claiming to have saved _ _% by buying brand X etc. That is also useless without saying what they paid. Comments that don’t include specific price for specific items are of little comparable value. Also if one gets similar prices from several dealers without us knowing what those prices are they may have all been equally high or equally reasonable. If a price was reasonable to begin with then yes there is no room for negotiation, but many dealers are quoting people MSRP prices and hoping the buyer accepts that. What possible reason could there be for trying to hide even MSRP’s? They are only useful if you dig deeper into what discounts others are offering, but by hiding MSRP you make it easier for a dealer to try and price higher IMO.

I suppose the bottom line on any deal (especially on a new more so than used) is the dealer needs your money more than you need his tractor. If you’ve done enough homework and are price conscious and don’t like the deal, go to another dealer. If you have money to burn, accept what he throws at you.
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #23  
I just quoted a new tn75 cab 4wd with loader at two dealerships. The first is at 36,500 and the second at 43,000. How can there be such a difference for the exact same machine. Both dealers are 30 miles from me ( in opposite directions).
Thanks
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #24  
I just quoted a new tn75 cab 4wd with loader at two dealerships. The first is at 36,500 and the second at 43,000. How can there be such a difference for the exact same machine. Both dealers are 30 miles from me ( in opposite directions).
Thanks
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #25  
<font color="blue"> I just quoted a new tn75 cab 4wd with loader at two dealerships. </font>
You're sure both dealers are quoting the exact same tractor, with the exact same features and the exact same attachments? The cab and the loader could be from different manufacturers. Perhaps the lower quote is with a Woods loader versus a NH loader.

<font color="blue"> How can there be such a difference for the exact same machine. Both dealers are 30 miles from me ( in opposite directions). </font>
Assuming the quotes are for identical equipment, who knows. Maybe the less expensive one has been sitting on the lot for a while and the dealer wants to get rid of it. Maybe there are more factory incentives on it.

Do you have written quotes or was this over the phone?
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #26  
<font color="blue"> I just quoted a new tn75 cab 4wd with loader at two dealerships. </font>
You're sure both dealers are quoting the exact same tractor, with the exact same features and the exact same attachments? The cab and the loader could be from different manufacturers. Perhaps the lower quote is with a Woods loader versus a NH loader.

<font color="blue"> How can there be such a difference for the exact same machine. Both dealers are 30 miles from me ( in opposite directions). </font>
Assuming the quotes are for identical equipment, who knows. Maybe the less expensive one has been sitting on the lot for a while and the dealer wants to get rid of it. Maybe there are more factory incentives on it.

Do you have written quotes or was this over the phone?
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #27  
The 43K is a written quote which I read to the other dealer (without the price) who told me he would order one and sell it to me for 36,5. Exactly the same. NH loader and cab.
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #28  
The 43K is a written quote which I read to the other dealer (without the price) who told me he would order one and sell it to me for 36,5. Exactly the same. NH loader and cab.
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #29  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The 43K is a written quote which I read to the other dealer (without the price) who told me he would order one and sell it to me for 36,5. Exactly the same. NH loader and cab. )</font>

Congratulations! You exercised the strongest power a purchaser has: CHOICE. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif The ability to walk away from one deal and go find a better one is good stuff. It puts control right where it belongs in the customer's hands. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Dealer markup on NH compact tractors? #30  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The 43K is a written quote which I read to the other dealer (without the price) who told me he would order one and sell it to me for 36,5. Exactly the same. NH loader and cab. )</font>

Congratulations! You exercised the strongest power a purchaser has: CHOICE. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif The ability to walk away from one deal and go find a better one is good stuff. It puts control right where it belongs in the customer's hands. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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