Decarbonizing GDI Engines....

   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #101  
That's one of the reasons I started this thread..... wanted to see who was having problems with what. Some GDI designs are worse/better than others, and agreed, maintenance practices and use-profile will affect most engines.

Rgds, D.


Yes for sure, worst offenders I see are those driven with light throttle pressure. Those driving for economy if you will, Fred
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines....
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#102  
Yes for sure, worst offenders I see are those driven with light throttle pressure. Those driving for economy if you will, Fred

LOL. (I believe you).

Pretty ironic, considering we are (allegedly) supposed to be Saving the Planet with these latest/greatest designs.....

Rgds, D.
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #103  
D,

You are correct. I change oil/filter every 4000 to 5000 miles while the book calls for a 7500 mile oil change interval. We rarely drive in town and most of our driving is long distance (for city folks). Hyundai does call for a jug of "fuel additive" every 7500 miles, but I've never followed this guidance. After reading this thread, perhaps I'll start doing that!

Thanks,
Mike
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines....
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#104  
D,

You are correct. I change oil/filter every 4000 to 5000 miles while the book calls for a 7500 mile oil change interval. We rarely drive in town and most of our driving is long distance (for city folks). Hyundai does call for a jug of "fuel additive" every 7500 miles, but I've never followed this guidance. After reading this thread, perhaps I'll start doing that!

Thanks,
Mike

^Good oil change practices, and little/nothing for short-cycle cold weather driving. Doesn't get much better than that.

Injector geometry has gone down, rail pressure up. Add to that many light-vehicle manufacturers have done away with under-car/hood replaceable fuel filters (gas engines)....... net/net, while using a good quality injector cleaner at reasonable intervals was never a bad thing, it has become more critical on modern GDIs....

Rgds, D.
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #105  
It's interesting that you can tell a car has GDI when they merge on the hwy. They blast out a big puff of carbon just like an old timey muscle car.

Respectfully I would disagree with the premise that it is reversion that is causing the deposits. The valves most heavily affected are those downstream of the PVC port.
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #106  
It's interesting that you can tell a car has GDI when they merge on the hwy. They blast out a big puff of carbon just like an old timey muscle car.

Respectfully I would disagree with the premise that it is reversion that is causing the deposits. The valves most heavily affected are those downstream of the PVC port.

Don't get behind me with my 7.3 IDI Powerstroke. it's chipped and Banksed... I guarantee you you'll have 'black lung' if you are behind me when I tromp it.:laughing:
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #107  
I want to thank all the mechanics on this long but interesting thread....I now understand much better why when I borrow my wife's 2012 Elantra and step on it on highway merge, I have at times got huge black smoke result.......scares the crapp out of me and the drivers beside me. She drives much more sedately however we are fortunate that our drive into work each day is a 25 minute drive at highway speeds. But with 80,000 miles (130,000 kms ) on it I was getting worried about that four cylinder and that random black smoke. We use good oil (synthetic in winter) and have lately learned you must use Hyundai's oil filters as per a TSB they issued about valve train noise. Too late that engine already doing the tell tale clackity clack!.........Also have a 5.3 litre 2014 GMC truck so read with interest the modifications some made.............thanks
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #108  
For those with Ecoboost engines, Ford has not approved ANY cleaning of the intake. No sprays, solvents, or walnut blasting. If you do any of these and it causes a problem (particles causing impeller damage, overheating turbo, washing bearings, etc) your warranty will not cover it. Ford still says there should not be excessive carbon issues due to there design, until 150+ miles. I haven't seen proof of any actual issues. Top tier gas and full synthetic oil is the best preventative until (IF) they come out with an approved cleaning method.

It's been a while since I posted in this thread, but I would not worry about deposits in the 3.5 ecoboost. Just for fun I ran a bore scope into the cylinder of my truck with 16,000 miles on it when doing spark plugs and did not see any carbon or sludge. I'm not worried about it.
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #109  
Ford is using the pulsed fuel injection trick on the cam overlap phase too.
 
   / Decarbonizing GDI Engines.... #110  
It's been a while since I posted in this thread, but I would not worry about deposits in the 3.5 ecoboost. Just for fun I ran a bore scope into the cylinder of my truck with 16,000 miles on it when doing spark plugs and did not see any carbon or sludge. I'm not worried about it.
Yeah, that was my point too. I wouldn't try to clean anything when 1) it isn't needed, and 2) you could cause damage.
 

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