Deciding between L series & MX

[goeduck]

Be very careful what you finally decide on. None of the new tractors mentioned will ever replace the bull work that your 4020 can do handily. I have had a Kubota L4200 for many years, soon to be replaced with a new L5060, but still occasionally call upon my neighbors JD4020.

I know you don't want two tractors, but I would not trade the 4020 in on a new tractor. Keep it for a while until you personally test the capabilities of the new, smaller tractor that you decide on. If you find it meets ALL your needs, then sell the 4020 outright.

Agree that the JD 4020 is a workhorse and there is no way that I would give one up. You would have to pry my cold dead fingers off of the steering wheel if I had one.

I would get a 3 sided RV carport and keep her.

 

[backwaterdogs]

I was going to get the MX4800
I decided on the MX5800 for the extra PTO HP

I was moving rocks and boulders yesterday the Hydraulic thumb is a must for plucking big rocks out of the ground.
I had one that would not fit in the front bucket and the 2' backhoe bucket and thumb could not grasp it so I had to push then drag and the push it again to move it.
I was very very happy that I bought the MX over the lighter L
I worked the MX5800 pretty hard moving that Boulder., The MX4800 may have moved it as well but having the extra 10HP may have helped some.

Nothing like feeling your whole tractor rise as a big big rock gets stuck while dragging it and the tractor keeps a moovin

Thanks!...Im sorry hydraulic thumb? Also you have the backhoe on your 5800?

 

[jeff9366]

One other task for this tractor is to maintain food plots. I'd like to get a rototiler and have a 1 acre food plot in a field and want to build smaller ones in the woods.

Has anyone had issues with the mx size tractor making good use of a roto tiller?

PTO powered Roto-tillers and Disc Harrows are both soil mixing implements. You need one or the other, both are needless duplication.

I slightly favor the Disc Harrow because it is faster maintaining fire breaks and does not require attaching Roto-tiller PTO shaft to tractor, always a struggle. Disc Harrows are among the easiest implements to attach to a tractor. However, Disc Harrow + tractor combinations are l-o-n-g. Roto-tillers are compact.

Forward rotating Roto-tillers require very little power. An MX can handle any reasonable width Roto-tiller.

I recommend a Cultipacker to firm seed into soil.

 

[backwaterdogs]

Also,

Can anyone tell me what Im missing on the comparison of the 4800 to 5800?

61.4 versus 49.3 hp? all other specs look the same. They appear to have same engine block, but the 12 extra hp appear to be coming from the turbo and the Te4-MX3 addtion on the engine. I assume the the TE4-MX3 is just bigger badder turbo than on the 5200.

hydraulic specs and everything else look to all be the same.

heck even displacement on l4700 vs mx4800 is the same. I see tho that l470 is called tier 4 and mx 4800 is call tier 4 final. Does that mean the mx4800 and above will require DEF but the L4701 would not?

 

[Newby first timer]

All of the specs are the same for the Front bucket and Backhoe between the MX4800 , MX5200 and the MX5800 the difference is the HP at the PTO
The MX5200 and 5800 are turbo'd

if you get the upgraded front bucket LA1065 and the BH92 Backhoe on the L4701 they all lift the same but the L4701 Hydro Pump 7.8 GPM is slower that the MX's 9.5 GPM

 

[jeff9366]

The MX4800 has Three Point Hitch turnbuckle Lower Link stabilizers and fixed length Lower Links.

MX5200 and MX 5800 have Three Point Hitch telescoping, pin adjustable Lower Link stabilizers and extendable Lower Links, as do all the Kubota Grand Ls. I have never read a TBN post reporting damaged factory telescoping, pin adjustable Lower Link stabilizers or extendable Lower Links.
These refinements make connecting Three Point Hitch implements much easier.

As extendable Lower Links retract after implement attachment, this attachment method does not increase tractor/implement length. Aftermarket Quick Hitches increase tractor/implement length 4" (+/-) which often requires longer PTO shafts or adding PTO shaft extensions. I occasionally read TBN reports of broken aftermarket Quick Hitches, including broken Land Pride Quick Hitches.


No DEF.

I speculate cooling capacity increases with turbo addition.

 

[backwaterdogs]

The MX4800 has Three Point Hitch turnbuckle Lower Link stabilizers and fixed length Lower Links.

MX5200 and MX 5800 have Three Point Hitch telescoping, pin adjustable Lower Link stabilizers and (I believe) extendable Lower Links, as do all the Kubota Grand Ls.
These refinements make connecting Three Point Hitch implements much easier.

No DEF.

I speculate cooling capacity increases with turbo addition.

thanks!

Would the extras on the 3pt hitch on the 5800 give any benefit if i were to be getting a quick hitch 3pt attachment anyway?

The major advantage I can see of the 4800 over the l470 is the category 2 hitch and the extra weight.

Where does teh extra 500lbs come from? Are the axles heavier? the engine looks to be the same an assume the hst is the same as well.

 

[Newby first timer]

I looked at both of them and the MX axles are a lot larger that the L4701
the Cat 1/2 3 point hitch is much heavier on the MX's

as for the Thumb
it is a extra it is mounted just over the backhoe bucket I got the Hydro version instead of the pinned one
The hydro version is activated with a right foot peddle that keeps your hands on the levers for the backhoe.

Pretty neat design it works great

 

[jeff9366]

thanks!

Would the extras on the 3pt hitch on the 5800 give any benefit if i were to be getting a quick hitch 3pt attachment anyway?

The major advantage I can see of the 4800 over the l470 is the category 2 hitch and the extra weight.

Where does teh extra 500lbs come from? Are the axles heavier? the engine looks to be the same an assume the hst is the same as well.

Watch the second video in Post #25.


Re: L4701 vx. MX4800
Originally Posted by bdhsfz6 3/06/2018
I own both a L6060 and MX5800. The most obvious differences are the larger front tires, more robust front axle assembly and transmission case on the MX.


No argument from me.

The larger front tires, more robust front axle assembly and transmission case on the MX are sub-assemblies which mount to the frame/chassis, or whatever it is best termed.

Sheet metal dimensions of the Grand Ls and MXs are easily researched and close. Sheet metal dimensions vary a bit, with the MX sheet metal more bulbous, so the sheet metal properly fits around larger front tires, more robust front axle assembly, transmission case and larger Three Point Hitch on the MXs. I maintain my speculation L4060/4760/5060/5460/6060 and MX4800/5200/5800 are assembled on a single frame/chassis.

I also maintain my speculation these eight models share a single engine block. Not total engine, just a common block.

Tractor models are produced in low volume. Manufacturers constantly seek to maximize common components for scale in purchasing and assembly line production.

LINK TO FULL THREAD: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/392204-l4701-vx-mx4800.html




MX5200 and MX 5800 have Three Point Hitch telescoping, pin adjustable Lower Link stabilizers and extendable Lower Links, as do all the Kubota Grand Ls.
These refinements make connecting Three Point Hitch implements much easier.

These components form an extremely robust Quick Hitch or Semi-Quick Hitch.

The operating station on the MX and Grand Ls are more spacious and have a nearly flat floor. If you are 5'-11" or taller, the MX and Grand Ls will be more comfortable than L4701.

 

[majorwager]

Have an MX, very versitle. I believe mx 5200 is small price increase from 4800. Extendable lower links are nice feature. The rear remotes are very expensive. Negotiated one w/ purchase, should have bought two. Priced recently from dealer, it is sold through whole goods not parts. $550. For the kit, self install. Buy the telescoping stabilizers if not standard, they are a parts item, expensive. Better off negotiating these items over the entire purchase deal. If winters are a concern, there is a very nice all glass cab available for 4701 or mx, aftermarket, a down the road upgrade if desired. More advise, get the rear worklight. It is not LED as folks will suggest, but has integral switch, saves monkeying w/ lites on new tractor. Can add lightbar and stuff as time progresses. Here is the point, what is dealer incentive to sell you reasonable add ons, AFTER they have sold you the tractor. Get what you want in the package, be prepared to walk away and THINK about the,$$

Edit: my mx floor is NOT completely flat, there is a small center hump but not excessive. Not sure about 4701
floor? Stock suspension seat on mx is crap. Bought inexpensive replacement spring/hyd shock seat from tractor supply w/ manual lumbar adjustment and higher back. Big improvement. Seat height increased as well, better visibility.