Decorating: latex paint over stain grade hardwood?

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The lasting attributes are having surfaces that require more maintenance and if someone wants to go back to the wood finish, it's a difficult process stripping that much paint off wood. Also easy to damage the wood surface while trying to remove the paint.

The benefit to a TV show is the change to paint shows a dramatic makeover and paint is cheap. But they don't have to live in the property afterwards.
 
   / Decorating: latex paint over stain grade hardwood?
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The lasting attributes are having surfaces that require more maintenance and if someone wants to go back to the wood finish, it's a difficult process stripping that much paint off wood. Also easy to damage the wood surface while trying to remove the paint.

The benefit to a TV show is the change to paint shows a dramatic makeover and paint is cheap. But they don't have to live in the property afterwards.
It’s a fight I can’t win… the corporate outside managers are giddy looking at samples and color pallets…

I did my due diligence today and it was noted.

To do the flooring conversion away from commercial nylon broad loom carpet requires sealing the on grade concrete due to the local high water table… the underground raceways will require additional floor prep and stripping the institutional commercial wall paper and wall prep for paint all factor…

The stained hardwood also requires prep for adhesion… plus the 12” base boards will ugly out from the housekeeping vacuum cleaners.

Then the idea to inlay Corp logo adds to the cost…

My standard question is what’s the budget?

I was told this is in part to boost employee morale but employees can go a year and never set foot in the lobby… so not sure?

Looked for a picture and the only one I could find is when mom wanted to see the tree I set up in 2023

I’m having a hard time picturing what’s to be gained with shades of green makeover.

No pictures of entry, reception or registration :-(
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I have some older homes that were always painted and a good oil enamel would last decades.

The problem I run into now is a quick latex roll out over oil or varnish and the top cost just peels off with a finger nail.

Worse is in areas such as a laundry room or steamy bathroom where all the paint alligators… often simpler to go over with new rock.
In our current house, the entire house was wood. No plaster. No drywall. All wood. And not a lick of it matched. At a minimum, there were 3 different woods in a room. One had 7. It was not nice. Think stained rough plywood for walls in the bedrooms.

Our living room had maple floors, 12" white ceiling tile (not asbestos, had them tested), knotty pine shellacked vertical board walls, very dark doors, and very dark built in cabinets on one end of the room. One curio cabinet on the right, and a gun cabinet on the left, with a bench spanning the area between the cabinets. Drawers under the cabinets and bench. Nothing matched. 3 of the four walls had the same style of knotty pine boards (differing width), but the fourth had them all the same size.

I gutted the bedrooms and dining room and drywalled, and put up oak trim on everything, but left the living room alone, because I liked knotty pine. This was supposed to be our 5 year house.......

20 years later, my wife was tire of the living room looking like a mismatched cabin. So was I. So we decided to paint the shellacked knotty pine and make all the trim match the cabinets and doors. About the only real way to do that and not worry about latex paint peeling off is to use TSP to wipe down the walls, removing grease and oils, then sand the shellac to give it a texture, then prime with appropriate primer, then paint.

So I spent about 4 hours a night for a week or so with a palm sander hooked to a shop vac getting every little crack and joint and flat surface roughed up. Primed and painted the color she wanted. OK.

Then I installed new door and window trim and small crown molding. Then came up with a formula for a stain that matched the existing dark wood cabinets and doors (rosewood and walnut, many tests until correct).

So now the room has painted vertical boards and all the trim matches the dark doors and curio cabinets. The maple floor is a nice contrast to the dark trim. The small dark crown molding frames the white ceiling and makes a nice line between the wall and ceiling. Wife is happy. She gets paint. I'm happy to get stained doors, cabinets and trim that match. Life is good.

So anyway, in my opinion, if the hospital is going to paint over stained wood, someone is going to have to do similar, and degrease/de-oil the wood first, sand it to rough it up, prime it and paint it, or it's just gonna peel off every time it gets scratched.
 
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It’s a fight I can’t win… the corporate outside managers are giddy looking at samples and color pallets…

I did my due diligence today and it was noted.

To do the flooring conversion away from commercial nylon broad loom carpet requires sealing the on grade concrete due to the local high water table… the underground raceways will require additional floor prep and stripping the institutional commercial wall paper and wall prep for paint all factor…

The stained hardwood also requires prep for adhesion… plus the 12” base boards will ugly out from the housekeeping vacuum cleaners.

Then the idea to inlay Corp logo adds to the cost…

My standard question is what’s the budget?

I was told this is in part to boost employee morale but employees can go a year and never set foot in the lobby… so not sure?

Looked for a picture and the only one I could find is when mom wanted to see the tree I set up in 2023

I’m having a hard time picturing what’s to be gained with shades of green makeover.

No pictures of entry, reception or registration :-(
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I happen to agree with you on this one, but regarding your job, you don't come across as a maintenance employee, but a high maintenance employee.
 
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And when the trend returns to stained wood, it'll be cheaper for them to rip out the painted trim and install new composite material trim than it would be to strip the paint.
 
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Whether the "updating" will do much for morale...employees may just think to themselves they could have used the extra money in their paychecks.

So your mom was still able to get around in 2023 to come see the tree. That's a good picture to have of her.
 
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Whether the "updating" will do much for morale...employees may just think to themselves they could have used the extra money in their paychecks.

So your mom was still able to get around in 2023 to come see the tree. That's a good picture to have of her.
She always said as long as she could get around life is good… at 75 still running marathons and up to the last 6 months still walking miles in the hilly neighborhood where she lived.

She was also 50 years a RN fully intending to be a nun in the nursing order… dad said many times mom is the best thing that ever happened to him.
 
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I happen to agree with you on this one, but regarding your job, you don't come across as a maintenance employee, but a high maintenance employee.
Yep… I agree.

No one is happy since the corp merger and this includes staff and docs… the transition was from local community based to one of 60 or so facilities.

For me it’s the corporate directives from far away without a clue to the realities involved… like redecorating when we have real needs such as replacing 30 year old steam boilers, sterilizers, parking lot seal and stripe/lighting, etc…

My record of 33 years without a single surgery ever cancelled due to a problem with the facility and over 30 years without a missed day of work is solid.

Worked through the pandemic when most of America stayed home including those at the highest levels checking in via zoom calls.
 
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