Deere 110 tlb hydraulic temp gauge question

[disney]

Good morning to all. I have what I hope is a simple question. On a deere 110 tlb, or related 4000 series (if they have a hydraulic temp gauge) should the hydraulic temp gauge move above what I will call the cold 'area' after an hour of running, but NOT moving OR using the hydraulics? Most (almost all) of my current machine time is powering a chipper/shredder, and I have never seen the hydraulic temp move at all. Now I have checked/cleaned the wire terminal contact at the sensor, and If I ground the sensor wire (to simulate very high hydraulic oil temp) the gauge moves to the red (where it should be with a direct to ground sensor input). I know I can just replace the sensor (it is not very expensive), but if it is normal for the temp not to get 'warm enough' to move the needle, it would just be wasted money. Thank you in advance for any responses.

 

[PBettis]

I have the same issue with my 2006 110. Takes an hour or so to get the slightest movement of the Hydraulic oil temp guage. The water temp guage moves on up after about 30 mins or so. Also the screen of the guages fogs up pretty bad. Not sure why. Didn't see anything inside the guages that would cause the fogging. Sorry not much help. But I do have the same question. Seems the hydraulic oil would get much hotter much quicker in my opinion too and show an obvious corresponding guage reading.

 

[disney]

Mr. PBettis. Thank you for your reply. I did not think to mention it, but the instrument 'glass' (plastic) will also fog up (after running a while), I doubted the two are related and forget about it. If we get one or two replys from other 110 owners/operators we can find it out it is normal, or if we both have the same 'issue'.

 

[jenkinsph]

My 110 hydraulic oil guage stays steady and cool too in most jobs. If I dig very aggresively for a long period of time it will rise ever so slightly.

 

[dsh82]

Hi guys, i guess im the only one to actually get it to move to hot then. Ive only got a 110 hot while using the hoe to dig an electrical trench. 160 foot, 18" wide, through hard pack dirt and shale. And it was 90+ outside. On my machine, i get it hot every time i cut my lawn. I use a 7' finish mower to cut 3 acres. Takes about 3 hours total. After that much drive time it gets hot. On cool days in the fall, not so much. I think the hydrostat heats the machine more then anything. And i have the fogging too. Really annoying.

Dan

 

[disney]

Thank you everyone for all of the replies. I guess I have nothing to worry about, although the fogging is annoying. One question for Mr. Dan, and I mean nothing negative by it, but why would it take 3 hours to cut 3 acres with a 7 foot finish mower?

 

[11toma]

My 2006 110 Hydraulic Temp Gauge does not move at all, I changed the Sensor hoping that it would be a simple fix, no luck. The only thing left is the instrument cluster, but that is rather expensive. I hate not having a gauge work. I also have the foggy issue, and glad someone has brought this up. I could not understand why it does this; the gauge is mounted on the fender not near any heat source.

Tom

 

[jenkinsph]

I see that most of you have the guage fogging up I haven't had this issue but do have a cab on mine. I wouldn't worry about trying to fix the temperature guage if it isn't moving unless you can determine the hydraulic system is getting hot. I have found that I can use the fel or how for most jobs and the hydraulic fluid only warms up slightly so not much reason to expect a lot of guage movement.

 

[chris42]

2003, new to me 110 TLB, Oil temp gage moved up to maybe 11 o'clock position on a (very slow) 15 mile drive. Otherwise it stays in the first 1/2" of range just about all the time. Instrument cluster was silicone sealed by the previous owner and I have no problems with fogging.

If you ever take the cluster (entire black plastic unit) from the fender you will find that - 1. There are relays mounted beneath it on the fender, and 2. - that the unit is designed to flow water away from the relays. With this in mind they expected water to get in below the cluster. I recommend the silicone idea.

 

[dsh82]

In response to the 3 acre question..... Its not a 3 acre field. Pretty much 6 seperate areas so there is a lot of turning, not very straight mowing, with hills, dips, and trees. If i use the mower to get close it takes much longer then if i use the small tractor to trim. Also, depending upon the height of the grass and whether its wet or not determines ground speed. Im finish mowing, not brush hogging and the mower sucks up a lot of hp. Going up hill in dry grassbogs the mower down and thus the tractor. You have to slow travel speed to keep the rpms up.

The reasoning behind the temp gauge climbing for me and not if youre digging with the hoe or fel is because when jd took a green tractor and converted it to yellow, they figured it would be getting used predominately like a backhoe, not an ag tractor. The cooler area and flow are way different so that they could accomodate the sloping hood for sight lines.

Dan

 

[jenkinsph]

dsh82,
I mow with a 749 about three acres, can't imagine using my 110 for that purpose. That has to be tough on your lawn.

 

[ME83]

My 2004 110 sounds the same as the rest of yours. About the only thing that moves the gauge is mowing or running up and down the road in high range pulling a trailer. If the trailer is heavy enough the gauge really moves when climbing long hills. Never seen it go past the half way point. In the winter it seems impossible to get the temp gauge to move at all.

 

[dsh82]

Jenkins,

Not really. A 110 without the hoe and front bucket (or cab) is quite light, especially considering the ground pressure exerted since the tires are so wide. And since its a finish mower, all weight is off the three point when you are cutting. If you could take off the loader arms it be even better. Turning radius is great and you have plenty of power. Its essentially the same as mowing with a 4600 deere. I do all my trimming with a 1970s wheel horse which will hopefully be replaced with a 455 or x7 series later on.

Dan

 

[jenkinsph]

dsh82,
A 110 without the hoe on back is about 6000 lbs with front bucket fwiw.

 

[dsh82]

Correct. Drop the front bucket and the weight biasing goes away. Youre roughly 5400 pounds, which given how much youre spreading the weight out with the big tires, does nothing to the lawn. Its pretty fun if the grass is wet because you can directional break and not tear anything up.

 

[DocDryden]

What type of mowers are guys using with that 110 tlb

 

[disney]

What type of mowers are guys using with that 110 tlb

I am not using it, but I did buy an older JD 25a offset fail mower that needs some tlc, so eventually a 25a will be used for the rough(er) stuff. I love my scag for my yard

 

[DocDryden]

Sorry, I did not mean to hijack this thread..

Disney, I will send you a PM

 

[jenkinsph]

Doc,
I ran my MX6 with the 110 before buying the 4520, did a good job with it.

 

[dsh82]

I run a woods rd8400 finish mower. Nice piece of equipment.