Deere, 'Bota, or CNH - again...

Bob_Skurka · May 2, 2006

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( I cant chime in on the JD or the CNH, as i know very little about either. I do however own a B3030. I think you will find the 3030 will weigh in at about 2750 lbs with the weight of the mower & filled rear tires. )

But without filled tires or a loader, the B3030 is under 1900 pounds. The similar, but very basic, B7800 HST is under 1800 pounds similarly configured. The weight of the mower deck is not included in these weights.

kingoflawns · May 2, 2006

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Hi bob, he said the property has hills so i just assumed the rears would be filled & im guessing the mmm weighs around 300 lbs ?

Keith_TN65 · May 2, 2006

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The MMM weighs roughly 370 pounds accoding to Kubota literature. I will start out without loading the tires. Currently my 790 does not have loaded tires and I attack the steeper areas by going up and down while the others a go across at an angle. It was the low weight of the B3030 that first grabbed my attention. While driving it last night it did seem a little bouncy though with turf tires. (Although I'm guessing the air pressure might have been a little low)

kingoflawns · May 2, 2006

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Having owned several kubota B series tractors, i strongly recommend you fill the rears.

daTeacha · May 2, 2006

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Regarding weight, the DX/TC 29,31,33,34 should come in about 2500 bare. Mine has the 114 loader, which is about 600 without the bucket, the QA bucket and bracket, which I'd put at 300 or so, the grapple at 150, and I added about 6.5 cu. ft. of concrete (900 lb. more or less) on the back, so I'm guessing that the whole rig comes in at about 4400 with no wheel weights or loaded tires.

Hmmm. That might be why it's reluctant to pull itself up the driveway hill in high range. That brings it in at about 3 times the weight of the B7100 with less than twice the horsepower. I never added up the weight before. I definitely will not be putting it on my trailer or hauling it behind the Dakota. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Keith_TN65 · May 2, 2006

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( Having owned several kubota B series tractors, i strongly recommend you fill the rears. )

Is that because they have a high center of gravity? or lack traction?

I will definitely take that into consideration. Especially if it is due to a high center of gravity

ronjhall · May 3, 2006

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The B3030 is a great tractor for mowing. The B7800 will also fit your requirements for a tractor with HST. I like the mower better on the B7800. It has a caster wheel on each corner. Makes it much easier to move when installing and removing mower.
I can cut 2 acres per hour with my 72" MMM on a B2910. B3030 replaced this model.

daTeacha · May 3, 2006

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My B7100 was an early issue, but not much different from the latest ones. It was pretty tippy with the loader full, but otherwise not bad on my hilly ground, especially with 400 lb of bush hog running behind it. Part of the problem with stability was the short wheelbase (48" or so), part was the narrowness (about the same to outer edge of the tires), and part the light weight (about 1350 lb with loader). The 15" ags in the back were loaded, but they only held about 75 lb. of fluid each. That helped, but not enough to make me feel safe. I also had about 10 gallons of concrete hanging on the 3 point, which helped, but again not enough to make me feel safe.

It was bull strong for it's size, reliable as an anvil, and would do anything reasonable I asked it to do plus some unreasonable things. I just needed something bigger for my body (6'2", 215, long legs and arms) and more comfortable for my back (disc problems and other things). I found the new B series Kubota's to have seats that made me feel like they were trying to throw me off and ergonomics for the controls that just didn't fit right. When I sat on a DX26, the comfort and ergonomics won me over from the Kubotas. Then I made the mistake of sitting on the 29/33 and there was no going back, especially after comparing the actual footprint size, not apparent visual size. It took a while to justify the costlier tractor in my mind and some careful measuring of height of my doorways and the tractor plus a whole lot reading about getting one size larger than you think you need from the guys here. I'm just sort of wondering if I should have gotten the 33 now, but I suppose if I had done that I'd be wondering about the 35. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

kingoflawns · May 3, 2006

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The rear tread is not adjustable, and yes the center of gravity, imho , is on the high side with the turf tires. The 3030 i demmoed did not have filled rears & the stability is much better as is the traction with the weight. My machine has 150 lbs of citris star in each rear tire.

daTeacha · May 4, 2006

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You can get a lower C/G by filling the rears to only 40 or 50 percent instead of the usual 80% or so. Just set the tire so the valve is at 3 or 4 o'clock instead of 12 and fill to the valve. A set of wide turfs filled this way could put a considerable amount of weight low and to the outside, which would increase your stability both from the C/G and polar inertia standpoint.