Deere scared?

[Kubotasrking]

So what is the US Investment base and total number of US employees for Kubota and Mahindra versus Deere? I would that Deere's total contribution to the US economy would dwarf most of the other makes.

Might be interesting to see the #'s of US employees say over the last 15 years.

 

[jwcinpk]

I agree that would be very interesting to see those types of numbers. Not just on tractors, but other stuff too.
I seriously doubt that Mahindra employs more people in the US than Deere. Perhaps more in a certain state (e.g. Texas). I would be interested in what percentage of the total operation is in the good old USA. I would also find it interesting to see how many of our current tractor manufacturers have union shops. I know Deere has atleast some plants that are UAW.

 

[srjones]

Here's another attempt to lighten up this thread. More 'Deere' slogans that will never get used. Yes, in bad taste and not funny.... But if MUSA uses any of these (not) I want some free stuff!

1. The competition looks at us like a Deere in the headlights.
2. Turns any Deere into venison.
3. It's open season on Deere.
4. There's no shear in my gear, I ain't cryin' for you Deere.

Full disclosure: I'm a Mahindra owner but I'm also a big fan of JD. To me, JD is the Harley Davidson of American tractors.

 

[TomKioti]

Thanks Ernie and I apoligize to anyone I may have offended but I absolutely stand by what I stated as my opinion.

Now back to the jokes.

 

[Bradford Timber]

Just to make my earlier post more clear.

We do live in the best country in the history of the world.

My man in the mirror comment was trying to make clear that complaining is the only real problem a man has in this country. If a man is complaining, he can't be working.

 

[TomKioti]

Bradford,

Yes we do indeed. My rant was not intended as a rebutal or flame reaction to your post but rather I saw an opportunity to offer a different point of view. People just need to become more civic minded and be more careful who we let steer the good ship U.S.A. Please vote but... vote responsibly and whenever possible buy American. IMHO of course!!!

P.S. My man in the mirror needs to join the gym

 

[therebarely]

We do live in the best country that has ever existed. We got there, not from the federal, state, or local government, but by people taking care of themselves, their families, and their neighbors. As we migrate away from rural life, and move to the metropolitian areas, we lose the ability for some unknown reason to take care of ourselves. We are a nation that lacks the motivitation for self preservation, relying on the government to solve all of our problems, and yet they can solve none. We have become a nation run by the elite politicians and the media, and people are judged by the car they drive, not the work that they or their tractor do. John Deere and Mahindra should be judged by the value of their products in the marketplace, and all tractor companies have to compete in a world marketplace.

 

[Cacinok]

this threads been all over the board. interesting read. addressing the original question of why deere had a problem w/ the add. i have not seen the add, but a previous poster said it went something to the effect of "Deere John, I've found somebody else", or something to that effect. if this is how the ad ran, then i have a hard time seeing what legal basis deere had to make mahindra pull the ad, but then in the law, if you have money you don't always need a legal basis, sad as it is.

 

[TomKioti]

Tom, it is not as cut and dry as that. The legal issues with intellectual property often become messy with HOW the brand is represented, or HOW the copyrited materials are used, not the fact that they are used. There are some legal ways to use things and there are some ways that run afoul of the law.

As none of us are privy to the actual documents or findings, we can only presume that if Deere put legal pressure on Mahindra, and if Mahindra pulled the advertisements, then Mahindra probably crossed the legal line in HOW they used the representations of JD.

All fo the tractor companies have "comparisions" to other brands on their websites, that is within legal bounds. Also realize that Mahindra has prior ads which showed its products with Deere and Kubota and those ads ran for a long time, so it was not simply a matter of using other brands that set off the problem. Truck companies compare their vehicles all the time, as do car companies. But again, it is not illegal to make comparisions, but it is illegal to make false claims about other companies, misuse likenesses, abuse trademarks, etc.

Cacinok,

Bob put it in really good terms above. I tend to agree with his take.