deisel cold weather starting

[MossRoad]

My old IH had a hydraulic dump valve that you could push with your heel. That would remove all hydrualic pressure from the system when starting the engine. How hard would it be to modify a PT for that?

Right now, as I understand it, when the treadle peddle is in neutral, the variable volume pump isn't pushing much oil, just the charge pump section. So the only real load would be the PTO pumps, which power the PTO, the steering and the lift circuits. The PTO pump has no load with no implement attached or running, so the main drag would probably be the steering/lift/aux PTO pump section. Any thoughts on bypassing that?

 

[kjm3232]

thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think i will be buying a magnetic type heater tonite. since the deutz doesn't have glowplugs,does anyone know if when you turn the key over to the 1st posistion clockwise is that a "preheat" posistion taking the place of the glowplugs before turning the key to the 2nd starting position? thanks again for all the good advice

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think i will be buying a magnetic type heater tonite. since the deutz doesn't have glowplugs,does anyone know if when you turn the key over to the 1st posistion clockwise is that a "preheat" posistion taking the place of the glowplugs before turning the key to the 2nd starting position? thanks again for all the good advice

There isn't any preheat. The first position on the switch activates the "ignition" pole, which in the diesel activates the fuel solenoid, and the "accessories" pole, which powers the gauge pack, PTO switch, etc.

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

i was wondering for those with the diesels, do you have any sort of heater to help with cold starting. i store my 1430 in a unheated garage and It took me about 7-10 times for it to turn over and start.

How goes your project?
This morning, my 1845 started in 12 degree weather. Took a little cranking to get it to smooth out, but I got out to plow our 1 1/2" of snow.

 

[ldabe]

How goes your project?
This morning, my 1845 started in 12 degree weather. Took a little cranking to get it to smooth out, but I got out to plow our 1 1/2" of snow.

Charlie,
You got luckier than I did.
I did not use my 422 for almost 2 wks ( I know, shame on me) and went to start it in about 9 degree weather.
It took a while for the battery to start to die down, but still no start.
I took the plugs out, looked pretty good but deceided to replace them anyway.
With new plugs in and my vehicle with jumper cables on 422 battery, it still took holding the key for about 40 seconds, but it did start and stayed running.
BUT!...As it was running I had the engine compartment up and noticed oil in the bed of compartment...[quickly shuts off engine].
Now that I think about it, I guess I was lucky indeed.
From what I could see it looks like the engine oil filter either came loose or blew the seal.
So, I am going to go ahead and change the oil (whats left) and the oil filter and hope that is all it needs to get it back operating.
PT's cannot be beat when they work with no problems...but when problems arise it beats me up good with the tight confined spaces to try to work in.

 

[kjm3232]

Charlie, I went out and bought a battery charger last week at a Autozone and had it on friday nite into sat morning trickle charging. I had to plow sat morning (5am) before i headed down to hartford,ct for my military drill weekend. (The wife wasn't going outside unless she absolutely had to)Anyway, the tractor started alot quicker than before in the cold. I still have to pick up a magnetic heater and see how that helps with the cold weather starting. thanks again for all the info and advice

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

Charlie, I went out and bought a battery charger last week at a Autozone and had it on friday nite into sat morning trickle charging. I had to plow sat morning (5am) before i headed down to hartford,ct for my military drill weekend. (The wife wasn't going outside unless she absolutely had to)Anyway, the tractor started alot quicker than before in the cold. I still have to pick up a magnetic heater and see how that helps with the cold weather starting. thanks again for all the info and advice

No question a trickle charger helps. Cold works against the battery. Having it at top charge, and possibly a skosh warmer even because of the small current definitely helps.
With magnetic heater(s) on the hydraulic tank and engine, it'll start like summer. Or maybe just take it for a nice Florida vacation.

 

[AltavistaLawn]

I thought about buying a cheap electric blanket to drape over the engine; and plug in the night before.

If I try it , I;ll post the results.

 

[kjm3232]

I bought 2 magnetic heaters and got them yesterday. I plan on putting them on a timer and run them for say 2 hours on saturday and see how it turns over.

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

I bought 2 magnetic heaters and got them yesterday. I plan on putting them on a timer and run them for say 2 hours on saturday and see how it turns over.

Just in time for Spring?