dextron III as tractor hdy fluid?

[Soundguy]

Yey, no problem. I got no issues with what ever others want to do with their tractors.. as long as I'm not the guy stuck for the repairs down the road. While i would think that an oil not rated for a final drive may work ok.. and even ok for some time.. i wonder about the long term. I'm one of those guys that collects the tractors in the 50-60 year old range. While ATF might not hurt a tractor in the 5-10-20.. or even 30 year range.. what about double that? If the atf is not providing the same level of anti wear and cushion that utf does.

I know a guy that ran plain hyd oil ( jack oil ) in his diffy instead of utf, as he had heard that you just 'put hyd oil in it' instead of taking to time to find out that the person telling him that was refering to transdraulic oil.. not hyd oil. While I'm guessing that very little damage was done to the drivetrain in that week.. I'm sure more wear occoured than had the correct oil been in there.. even if it took a microscope or oil metal anylisis to determine that... etc.

Soundguy

Soundguy

 

[YanmarFever]

sound
why do you think they atf in Japan, cheap ??
or do they know something we dont.
does anyone else know why ?

Most of our tractors come filled with atf thats why I use it + the cold weather benefits.
Ernies Imports

 

[Soundguy]

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That would be my guess. They are shipping boxes of used tractors over here. We've all seen these tractors come out of the containers. Many have mud packe din front end gear boxes, and other problems.

ATF is way cheaper than utf.. and for the purpose of filling a cavity with a lube oil.. it works.

Reminds me of the stuff the chinese tractors come over with. Green water in the radiator that doesn't seem to be anything other than food coloring.. vs real anti freeze... grease thick gunk in the tranny and gear boxes instead of gear oil.. same with crankcase oil.. etc. Cruddy diesel.. etc. Standard procedure on a chineese tractor is to change all fluids asap. I figure they put the cheapest stuff they can find in there just to get them overseas.. I don't see why the used jap units would be any different.

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Ok.. what does the manual call for? ATF? or a 303/utf type fluid. i think that would/should be the defining issue.. not what the shipper / distribuitor dumps in to send it over.. but rather what the manufacturer specs for the tractors in question. I.e. what does the ym240/195 book show .. atf or utf.. for the 1700/2000 / 245/195 etc.

I would then look at the fx books and see what they spec...

FWIW.. you don't see any of the jd branded yanmar compact units getting filled with atf when you take them to a JD dealer for work.. My bet is they get 303 or now.. the hygard.. updated utf.. etc.

Soundguy

 

[Greg_Thomas]

On a Texas dealers website that sells imported crated tractors, he emphasizes following the printed assembly instructions carefully. The instructions state that all fluids must be changed before running the engine- the shipping fluids are there only to prevent rust on the long damp trip overseas.
He didn't mention if they use ATF or other similar fluid for the trip, just that the proper fluid listed in the manual must be used to avoid voiding the warranty. Makes sense to me.

 

[Soundguy]

After thinking about the subject some more.. the issue of detergent comes to mind. ATF is in a system where there is a filter. Many old tractors don't have a fitler on their open sumps.. not sure if you want alot of cr@p suspended int he oil that is waiting to be filtered out.. when there is no fitler... etc..

Soundguy

 

[whitetiger]

Factory fill for the transmission, rear end and hydraulic common reservoir in a MF 85, 88& Super 90 was Dextron.

 

[whitetiger]

Factory fill for the transmission, rear end and hydraulic common reservoir in a MF 85, 88& Super 90 was Dextron.

 

[Soundguy]

Ok.. so as long as the original poster has those 3 tractors.. they should be fine then. For the other 100thousand plus tractors out there that don't spec it.. I'd avoid it.. etc.

thanks

Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Ok.. so as long as the original poster has those 3 tractors.. they should be fine then. For the other 100thousand plus tractors out there that don't spec it.. I'd avoid it.. etc.

thanks

Soundguy