Diesel fuel #1 and #2

[grsthegreat]

Personally, I haven't seen a kerosene pump at a fuel station for years, but again, I am sure that there are locales where that is not the case.

Fairly common here in middle Tn. I can think of 3 kerosene pumps within 2 mile radius of my house

We have kerosene, off road, ethanol free, and standard #2 diesel pumps here in N. Idaho , along with standard ethanol blended fuels.

Kerosene is crazy expensive.

 

[mjonesnh]

At a guess what do you think that the demand is? Kerosene heaters? Lighting?

All the best,

Peter

At a guess mostly sales in winter. Kerosene heaters and mixing Kerosene with their diesel in winter to prevent gelling. Local guys say 1 gallon of kerosene to 10 gallon of diesel prevents gelling. Myself, I run an anti-gel to prevent gelling and run straight # 2 diesel.

 

[grsthegreat]

At a guess mostly sales in winter. Kerosene heaters and mixing Kerosene with their diesel in winter to prevent gelling. Local guys say 1 gallon of kerosene to 10 gallon of diesel prevents gelling. Myself, I run an anti-gel to prevent gelling and run straight # 2 diesel.

I-used to do that when i lived in Montana in the 1980’s.

Todays modern diesel fuels, at least in the pacific northwest, have a winter blend at the pumps. I hold off refueling my storage tank that i use for winter snow plowing until winter blends arrives at the stations.

Ive never had gelling occur in the last 29 years ive lived here. I use no other additives.

 

[LouNY]

I have had gelling issues over the years.
Now days my winter tractor tank is a 30% blend of #1 and #2 "fuel" oil (30% #1 and 70% #2) along with the high dosage of anti gell. If and when the forecast is calling for -20F I'll add a bit more #1 or kerosene to the tractor tanks.

 

[millard762]

Fleet farm in Cedar Rapids has a pump for kerosene. I normally will just add power service to my diesel for cold Iowa weather. However, cenex stations here put out a winter blend of diesel.

 

[sandman2234]

#1 diesel is kerosene, or kerosene is #1 diesel fuel. Your #2 home heating oil is the same as #2 diesel.

That is what I was always taught. If you add red dye to either one, then it becomes off road and no taxes are charged.
Consider this...
A gas station owner calls the distributor and orders 3000 gallons of diesel to top off his 5000 gallon underground tank, The trucker picks up whatever liquid the distributor says was ordered. (doesn't matter what it actually is) and the trucker comes to the station and dumps the 3000 gallons into a hole marked by a color chart on the ground. There are so many places in the chain of that transaction where things can go wrong, it isn't even funny. Now... you the customer go in and buy some diesel and you have an issue with it, taking out the pump on your diesel engine. What caused it, was it the refinery? Was it the distributor who pumped the wrong stuff into the tank which mixed what was in the underground tank or was it the trucker who is color blind and put it in the wrong tank?
There are so many ways this can go wrong, and yet we thinking that it was because it was #1 or #2 diesel or kerosene or that off road doesn't have the proper lubricants because it colored or whatever doesn't really include these variables.
David from jax

 

[dodge man]

When it gets really cold I blend kerosene in with my diesel, at about 25%. I think this last winter it was $5.50 a gallon. 5 gallons often lasts me two winters though.

 

[MMC]

At a guess what do you think that the demand is? Kerosene heaters? Lighting?

All the best,

Peter

Kerosene heaters here in KY

 

[LouNY]

In my area much of it is for heating, there are still lots of exterior heating tanks that get kerosene, also works good in salamander heaters with less smoke and fumes then #2. And then to cut #2 in the winter.

 

[careyo63]

Grandfather used Kerosene in WV.. Which we called it Heating oil as kids. Coal before that. They finally changed to Natural gas when it was finally available for delivery.
I'm all Elec.. and use a Heat pump/AC.. No gas!. I will have to switch the heat to just Electric heat a few times a yr. but very seldom. Mid 30 Deg.. When I do have to switch it over you can bet the Elec. bill goes up substantially. The bill will be almost double. I do like gas stoves for cooking which I have on the grill.
The Off Rd. Diesel I used does run better. Haven't used it in yrs.. You could tell it. The Yammer hammer was louder and seemed to run with more power mowing. Pretty much like running High Test Gas to just plain Reg.. Just like old Big block 4-barrel days was a noticeable difference using it.