yup, that's what i said..ina nice way though "Well, I have to go, got people to see." Lol. Yeah, i may have to drive twice as far, and even have to pay more, but it is worth it..quick question, are yanmars like "top of the line" whereas briggs and strattons are "economy"? thanks again...rl, a video would be Great!! Gives you an excuse to use the tractor,,, /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif