Diesel Truck advice

   / Diesel Truck advice #21  
I have seen those pictures. The straight six has beefier rods. It also has more stress per cubic inch on each rod than does a similar sized V8. V8's are a different breed, and operate under different stresses, angles of stress ect.

A lower revving motor will last longer, that is why some of the old Farmall's and John Deeres run great still 50,60, even 70 years later. But, there are a lot of Toyota's out there with those sewing machine motors, running 250, 300k miles without blinking.

I worked off a number of local Fire Engines a few years back. Our local engine, E28, is only three years old. The 8.9L Cummins is AWESOME. That engine runs great, and huals great.

The second out engine, E228, is an older '89 Ford 8000 buildup with a CAT 3208. That engine spent a lot of years as first out, from '89- '2002. It was down in San Diego this last year for the wild fires as part of a strike team even. Although that old CAT 3208 V8 has some years and miles on her, she still runs strong. When I was there a couple years ago, she had about 90k miles. Doesn't sound like much, but that is a lot on a Fire engine. They get run hard, code-3 from a cold start. Hours pumping on wildfires...

I am a Cummins fan; I do not disagree with your position. My point is just, after all the Ford vs Dodge vs Chevy vs PS vs Cummins vs Duramax vs Allison discussions, where is the data and the references, the publisher? Where does the reference to buy-backs come from, and where are the numbers?
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #22  
I have a 99 F250 SD Super Cab Diesel and am very happy with it. It has been very reliable and gets good mileage. I have 140K on it so far. I bought it used with 70K on it.

99 was the first year of the new F250 body style series. They actually made significant changes in a revision during the first year. There are essentially two different '99 models. If you want to get any aftermarket add-ons for the truck you will want the late 99 models. I think there is a specific month of manufacture that differentiates the models (12/98). If you have a pre-12/98 model then you will have a harder time getting add-ons for it. I have the early model and didn't find out about this mid-year change until after I bought my truck.

I would reccommend skipping the 1999 year if possible. Look for a 2000 model.

Hope this helps.
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #23  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Look for a 2000 model )</font>

Since I haven't needed a heavy duty truck for quite awhile, I don't know much about them, but one of my brothers, who lives in a 38' fifth-wheel triple axle, dual slide-out travel trailer, bought a 2000 F350 crew cab dually, diesel of course, with the 6-speed manual transmission in December. It had just rolled over the first 100k miles and I've not only ridden with him, but drove it around awhile. Beautiful truck that looks and drives like a new vehicle.
 
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#24  
I've been researching this stuff for a while, for the NEWER diesels, it has become quite obvious that you guys are right on the Cummins being a great performer. I DON'T like the fact that they did what the did to those engines at such a great cost to fuel mileage.

If I had the money to go new right now, I would have to say I would be going with the new Fords because it seems they have struck an acceptable compromise between mileage and power/torque, while at the same time still being much more durable than a gas engined vehicle.

I'm going with a big truck, but that doesn't mean that it isn't going to be my daily driver. I want it all.. mucho horsepower and torque as well as good fuel mileage.

Bearing in mind how colorblind I am, when I had my 1992 Chevy Z71 4x4 with the 350, it always amazed me that the Fords in that particular generation were selling at all. Chevy had more horsepower, more torque, and better fuel mileage than the competing Ford. I don't know how they pulled it off, winning in all three categories, since 2 usually exclude the other.
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #25  
<font color="red">One piece of advise, do NOT under any circumstances buy the 6.0 power stroke. It is junk in every aspect </font>

That's not true. Yes there were some problems with the launch of the motor due to Ford changing programming but since then there have not been anymore problems with them than any other diesel. Ford was always going to a newer engine in 2007 even before the 6.0 litre came out. The reason being was because of tightening emission standards.

I had 40,000 on my 03 6.0 litre and not any problems. I've got almost 15,000 on my 05 and no problems. There are many, many guys with no problems. Also the dieselstop.com is just as good as dodge website.

As far as lasting we have many trucks still going with between 300 and 600k on them. Some of them still have the original injectors. Injectors on a 99 will run you around $100 each. There are many aftermarket ones around even cheaper.

On a standard bed 4x4 with 3.73's you can get up to 22 mpg if you drive normal. My grandfather regularly gets 22-25 with his. But he never hot rods and rarely drives over 65 with it.
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #26  
I guess the really big question is, how do you guys afford these new trucks? I find the prices unbelieveable. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #27  
Bought my Dodge/Cummins new in '94, and never looked back. Not even interested in a new Compu-Diesel. Mine is a Cummins 12 valve non-computer motor with 165k on it now and I have never put a wrench to it. My next door neighbor has had his 6.0 bought back <font color="red"> TWICE </font> , and still thinks it's great (once for multiple turbo failures the other for a broken [not cracked] head with turbo failure). Brand loyalty at its finest, Henry would be proud. I've never seen any reason that the 6.0 was more than a "me too" motor meant as a stop gap before the new EPA regs come out. Why didn't ford use the DT466 or 444? Those are good proven reliable motors.

I wish I could get a Cummins motor, Allison tranny, and Ford truck. That would be great. Maybe I'll just build my own when all the Dodge falls off my Cummins motor (in 20 years).
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #28  
<font color="red">Why didn't ford use the DT466 or 444 </font>

They couldn't meet emissions anymore with it.

<font color="red">Not even interested in a new Compu-Diesel. Mine is a Cummins 12 valve non-computer motor with 165k on it now and I have never put a wrench to it. </font>

Won't argue with you a bit there. Piece of cake to work on one of those. The new computer ones you need a phd just to open the hood and that's Ford, Dodge, or Chevy.

<font color="red">I wish I could get a Cummins motor, Allison tranny, and Ford truck. </font> If you buy an F650 and above you can get that!! Little expensive and bad fuel mileage for a daily driver though. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / Diesel Truck advice #29  
Man ! If I had those kind of problems , I'd be in the market for a new truck !,and maker . But Ive got an 03 Ford PSD 6.0 . I'ts an early model . In fact it's the first sold by my dealership . I've had the FICM changed under warranty , but that's it . It's even got the original C94 injectors ! I guess it's in some ways a lottery these days . But,should I have costly problems in the future , I'll look at Dodge , GM ,and Ford for a replacement . There are horror stories with all makes of Vehicle . John
 

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