Difference between 1 pt and 3 pt attachments

BB_TX · Nov 11, 2005

My only point was that 1 pt implements can range from the lightest to the heaviest. Some manufacturers make rotary cutters in the 6'-7' range that come in both 3 pt or 1 pt (pull behind) because some people prefer one vs the other. And there are no hydraulics on those. Simply because a 1pt implement has 4 hydraulic hoses, it doesn't become a 5 pt implement.

greg_g · Nov 11, 2005

( My only point ... )

I wish.....

Gus - are you still with us?

//greg//

BB_TX · Nov 11, 2005

Don't really understand why you are having such a hard time grasping the fact that 1 pt implements are not necessarily light duty. The rakes Gus referenced in his post were certainly not designed for lawn tractors and ATVs. I agree the ones you provided links to are designed for that purpose.

73jeep · Nov 11, 2005

Now I'm confused! When I looked up the agri-supply landscape rake to see for myself, the example picture sure looks like a 3 pt, but is labeled as a 1 pt. Click HERE to see.

greg_g · Nov 11, 2005

( The rakes Gus referenced in his post were certainly not designed for lawn tractors and ATVs. I agree the ones you provided links to are designed for that purpose. )

The photo of the AgriSupply 3 point is obviously a tractor-rated (TPH) implement. The heavy duty one-point stuff is simply distracting. The problem at hand is that there isn't enough information yet to be able to determine if the $330 AgriSupply one-point landscape rake is anything other than a lawn tool. Gus's opening (and only) question is what's the difference between (the AgriSuppl) 1-point and 3-point implements. Would have been nice if you could have left it at that.

//greg//

BB_TX · Nov 11, 2005

Sorry. You are right. I am wrong. 1 pt implements are (very) light duty and designed for lawn/garden tractors and ATVs. I bow to you. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

JerryG · Nov 11, 2005

I have watched this thread for the last two days and thought that someone would stumble across what a tractor size one point hitch was. one point hitch

rambler · Nov 15, 2005

( I have watched this thread for the last two days and thought that someone would stumble across what a tractor size one point hitch was. one point hitch )

Ah, now that looks like a one-point hitch. As a farmer, I'm familiar with these from the looks anyhow. In the mid 1950's, IHC came out with their 2-point & 1-point Fast Hitch design. The 1-point was for Cub sized tractors. Didn't know anyone was still building for this type of hitch, if that is what your link is? There is no top link, hence the 1 or 2 point designation. I held my tongue, as frequently folks here don't like to be bothered with agricultural references, but that sure looks like it.

I've also heard of the garden tractor designation of a weak one point hitch, but not sure what that means for design. or if the same thing.

--->Paul

daTeacha · Nov 16, 2005

Now I realize I'm a little late to this party, and correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to the 8N and tractors of that ilk, weren't all implements just something pulled along by hitching them to the tractor at just one point? They got any mechanical parts moving with gears, chains, pulleys, etc. that relied on the ground wheels turning as the thing was pulled along.

Living in Amish country, I see a lot of one point equipement pulled by Amish "tractors" of 2 to 6 horsepower. The horsepower is big, usually coming in around 1800 lb. per horse. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif "Tractor", by the way, is also used around here to mean the front i.e. pulling, section of a large truck. the other part is the semi-trailer, as licensed by the state.

Seriously, if this discussion is to have any real value, I think everyone has to agree on what is meant by "hitch". Is it just the way the implement is moved from one location to another by the tractor, or is it any connection to the tractor? Some implements can be PTO driven, some hydraulic, and some a combination, using the hydraulics to fold and unfold stuff while the PTO shaft provides a mechanical rather than hydraulic drive to perform whatever operation the implement is supposed to do and a drawbar of some kind makes sure the thing follows the tractor, more or less.

Using the idea that "hitch" means any connection to the tractor, a large implement such as the one posted would have at least 4 points -- the drawbar, the PTO shaft, and at least two hydraulic lines. If the lift arms were also use to help position it, there could be 6. My bush hog would be a 4 point attachment since it uses two lift arms and a top link to position it properly behind the tractor and the PTO shaft to spin the blades around. You'd have a hard time convincing anyone selling the things that it had a 4 point attachment though, so I think I'll interpret the question Gus had as being in reference to how a thing connects to the tractor so it can move with the tractor and figure that the way any power to make it do anything else is a connection, not a hitch.