difference between 4100 & 4110?

[bryant1313]

what are the difference between these two models? I found a JD 4100 4wd hydro..no accessories, w/turf tires and 69 hours for $8,500.00 is that a good price? Ive been looking at the 4110 then found this one for waht seems to be better price with less hours but I cannot find any spec on it to compare with the 4110. DO they all have the yenmar 3cyl ...are there some option deletes or anything I need to beware of with this model that the 4110 might have that I wont get with this one?

 

[garchib]

The differences are minimal....the 4110 has a plastic hood, while the 4100 has a metal hood. The 4110 hides the diesel fuel cap with a small door, while the 4100 has the red cap exposed. Other than that, they are the same tractor. Anyone else ? Did I miss anything ?

 

[bigpete]

garchib--does your 4100 have the same 3PH position control as the 4110? Cruise control (not that I ever use it...)?

 

[bglombowski]

Hello bryant1313,
Welcome to TBN. It's funny I should say that 'cause I'm still pretty new too! Anyway, I just bought a 4100HST a few weeks ago and love it more and more each time I use it. Here's a list of what I got in the deal:
Model year 2001 John Deere 4100 HST w/ 912 hours (one owner), turf tires.
JD410 loader 61" bucket
JD ballast box
JD450 rototiller
JD413 rotary cutter
JD 54" front blade (modified to 72")w/quick-tatch
King Kutter 5' box blade
Frontier SP1060 pulverizer
4' York rake
I bought it for $10K from a private owner, not a dealer. I thought the number of hours was a little high, but the local dealer said "that's nothing to worry about." I'm not sure if the $8500 you're looking at is high, especially with the low hours, but you'll probably have to spend a certain amount of money for attachments. As far as the differences go, other than the hood, maybe the 4110 has a folding ROPS.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Brian

 

[keeney]

There may be a slight hydraulic flow increase on some of the newer models compared to the 4100, but I think the 4110 is nearly an identical replacement newer model of pretty much the same thing. A 4115 would clearly be a step up in power and hydraulic flow from the 4100.

All the attachments are the same between the two. They started painting the mower decks and other attachments green at about that time as the '10's came out. A yellow mower deck will make your machine look like a "classic".

Resale will probably be higher on the newer model.

- Rick

 

[bigpete]

Still curious--does the 4100 have 3-point position control? I've never operated a 4100.

 

[johndeere_2210]

yes it does the 3-point control

 

[garchib]

Sorry "bigpete", did not see your post until now....looks like our TBN brethren answered all of your questions. Good luck /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[bryant1313]

If I buy a new deck for this machine from JD would it be yellow, or green?..Personally, I seem to like the lighter colored decks decks when mowing in low light conditions....but thats just me.

 

[bryant1313]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Hello bryant1313,
Welcome to TBN. It's funny I should say that 'cause I'm still pretty new too! Anyway, I just bought a 4100HST a few weeks ago and love it more and more each time I use it. Here's a list of what I got in the deal:
Model year 2001 John Deere 4100 HST w/ 912 hours (one owner), turf tires.
JD410 loader 61" bucket
JD ballast box
JD450 rototiller
JD413 rotary cutter
JD 54" front blade (modified to 72")w/quick-tatch
King Kutter 5' box blade
Frontier SP1060 pulverizer
4' York rake
I bought it for $10K from a private owner, not a dealer. I thought the number of hours was a little high, but the local dealer said "that's nothing to worry about." I'm not sure if the $8500 you're looking at is high, especially with the low hours, but you'll probably have to spend a certain amount of money for attachments. As far as the differences go, other than the hood, maybe the 4110 has a folding ROPS.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Brian )</font>

I did buy it, ended up getting it for $8200. First thing I checked on it was to make sure the clock was working and that the dash screws showed no signs of being removed. Overall, the unit is extremely clean and wear items like foot pedals etc all seem to be in check with the 69 hours it shows. I wish it had some attachments though like yours did when you got it. All of the one I found with attachments seemed to have alot more hours on them. I do not believe your 900 hours is too bad at all and yours is a decent package for the price. I guess I will not feel too bad buying stuff for this one since it has low enough hours....even if some of the accessories are brand new.

 

[keeney]

Checking the JD website, they appear to currently offer a mix of yellow and green attachments. Not sure what the pattern is.

They show yellow on the current mid-mount 60 and 54 inch mowers for the 4100/4110.

However, the 72 inch mid-mower shown on the 4115 is green.

Some of the rear "Rotary Cutters" (LX4 and LX5) are green.

Tillers and snowblowers are green.

Front broom and blade are yellow.

Loader is green.

- Rick

 

[bryant1313]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There may be a slight hydraulic flow increase on some of the newer models compared to the 4100, but I think the 4110 is nearly an identical replacement newer model of pretty much the same thing. A 4115 would clearly be a step up in power and hydraulic flow from the 4100.

All the attachments are the same between the two. They started painting the mower decks and other attachments green at about that time as the '10's came out. A yellow mower deck will make your machine look like a "classic".

Resale will probably be higher on the newer model.

- Rick )</font>

Rick-
I only see an impliment gpm of 5.1 for these....some have the 2.3 additional for steering on the dual gear pumps.

 

[bigpete]

...and the 4110 and 4115 have the same increased hydraulic flow. Seems like that is the only major difference between 4100 and 4110, then.

 

[bryant1313]

impliment power would be the same then?....unless I was steering?....is that right?
There are also the HP difference to factor in also, which I understand.

 

[bryant1313]

bigpete-
Whats a good brand of aftermarket loaders? I need something as good as, if not better than the JD's, or is the JD's better? Also, I have not been able to find any used 410 FEL's....any idea where to look?

 

[2nstonge]

My 60" MMM deck for the 4110 is green (less than a year old). The first deck the delivered last spring had one set of forward mounting holes and wouldn't fit on the 4110 - dealer said he screwed-up and brought a deck for a 4100. The next deck he brought has 2 sets of forward hole locations. Dealer tells me it will fit a 4110 or 4115 but not the 4100. There was a thread a few months back about someone with a 4110 cutting off the forward bracket at the first set of holes, by making the deck just a few inches shorter it was easier to slide under the tractor (the forward bracket no longer hit the front wheel).

Not sure if other 4100/4110 implements are not compatible, certainly worth checking out before buying stuff that we would 'assume' fit both.

-Norm

 

[ducati996]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The differences are minimal....the 4110 has a plastic hood, while the 4100 has a metal hood. The 4110 hides the diesel fuel cap with a small door, while the 4100 has the red cap exposed. Other than that, they are the same tractor. Anyone else ? Did I miss anything ? )</font>

It has a plastic hood - I just dropped something on mine...

 

[ducati996]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( garchib--does your 4100 have the same 3PH position control as the 4110? Cruise control (not that I ever use it...)? )</font>

Yes on both...cruise on the hydro yes

 

[ducati996]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There may be a slight hydraulic flow increase on some of the newer models compared to the 4100, but I think the 4110 is nearly an identical replacement newer model of pretty much the same thing. A 4115 would clearly be a step up in power and hydraulic flow from the 4100.
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You would assume since the 4115 has more power that it would translate into more hydrolic lift capability - but that is not the case - same flow same lifting ability between the 3 models (4100, 4110 & 4115)....This question was answered by someone who had a 4100 and went to the 4115 so real life feedback was excellent. However they dont reside on this board, and I'm not going to provide the link as to where (house rules)

I have full position control on my 3 pt on my 4100....that should answer 3 pt questions. There is only a small lifting ability difference on the 3pt rating but its not accurate. I can lift 1,100 lbs on my 3pt all day long so I see no difference there at all. Remember the flow is the same on all these machines...

The 4100 are a great bargin these days and readily available.

Duc

 

[ducati996]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( bigpete-
Whats a good brand of aftermarket loaders? I need something as good as, if not better than the JD's, or is the JD's better? Also, I have not been able to find any used 410 FEL's....any idea where to look? )</font>

stick with deeres 410 loader - no other aftermarket comes close and are more perfectly matched for each other...

I realize the 410 has been phased out and replaced bt the 200 series. I would try and find a 410 first IMO