Difference between CUT and UT

[Charlesaf3]

I think its easier with individual lines. For example, with Kubotas, I'd say the UTs start with the M series. Interestingly, HST seems never to be an option with an UT - maybe one could divide it up that way. The UTs don't want the HP loss to the PTO...

 

[flusher]

??? That Mahindra looks like a Compact to me. My Ford 2120 which I need a step to get on is also a Compact. Mu TN 75D with both a step and a serious climb to get on is a Utility.

From Mahindra's own website "Tractor Overview: A superior performing tractor at a great value - the 5525 is an economical, rugged, compact 2WD utility tractor that offers versatility and ergonomic comfort."

Just sales yada yada. Mahindra doesn't want to scare away the CUT buyer, so they call the 5525 "compact". It ain't, at least not in my book.

 

[CDsdad]

I thought CUT or UT referred to frame or chassis size, and less than 100 hp, with some 45-100 hp tractors being also considered Ag tractors.

The Kubota M and MX series are larger framed than the L series.
The Massey 1600s and 1500s are definitely smaller than the 400, 500, and 54xx series.

I will say the larger L series tractors (5030) and 1500s (1557, 1560) make me think UT. The clearest difference I've seen between tractors of similar dimensions that were sitting side-by-side, was the difference between a Kubota L5030 and MX5000. The 5030 was big, but the 5000 just looked heavier duty.

If I farmed, I definitely would have what I consider an Ag or UT.

That's just my 2 cents.

 

[Hematite]

The terminology goes back to the early 1970's when the then major tractor manufacturers introduced imported (Japanese) tractors that were then smaller in size (and horsepower) than the smallest domestically produced tractors which were right around 30 -35 hp. Since then the differences have become blurred to non-existent with imports reaching hp in the 70s and domestics below 30. So, let's just say that CUT was a polite way of saying import back then.

I believe that is absolutely correct.

 

[MarkV]

Interesting thread. For years I have always considered a CUT to be 50 hp or less. After that you get in to UT or AG tractors. Now a days they are marketing CUTS with more than 50 hp so I guess the definition has gotten cloudy.

MarkV

 

[BrentD]

I personally believe that it is 100% marketing terminology. Each manufacturer makes the delineation for their product lines. For instance, Montana designates everything from their 2740 to their 3940 and the 4540 (all without a cab) as compacts. The 4340C up to the U5784C are designated as Utility tractors. They also have a T2334 and T2734 that are designated as "subcompacts" and then several other models that are not clearly slotted into a category other than having a C, R, I, or P series designation.

I guess the only thing that keeps the 4540 from being designated as "Utility" rather than "compact Utility" is the lack of a cab, and the 4340C's cab pushes it out of the "Compact" range. Either way, the line does seem rather arbitrary.

 

[tessiers]

I always considered the old 8N a utility tractor at 23 hp while we raked 5000 bales of hay a year with it for 50+ years. I think it has more to do with use than size, Farm and Agricultural tractors are utility tractors, and homeowner tractors are CUT when they never leave the yard and they sit in a heated garage all winter. All the HP you can afford can't make a Tractor a utility tractor. Utility means to USE.

 

[AndyMA]

Interesting thread. For years I have always considered a CUT to be 50 hp or less. After that you get in to UT or AG tractors. Now a days they are marketing CUTS with more than 50 hp so I guess the definition has gotten cloudy.

MarkV

I just don't see any tractor that only weighs 4000lbs as being a Utility. That's a pretty ligtht machine.

Andy

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I always considered the old 8N a utility tractor at 23 hp while we raked 5000 bales of hay a year with it for 50+ years. I think it has more to do with use than size, Farm and Agricultural tractors are utility tractors, and homeowner tractors are CUT when they never leave the yard and they sit in a heated garage all winter. All the HP you can afford can't make a Tractor a utility tractor. Utility means to USE.

BINGO!

 

[Gary Fowler]

I always think of Utility and Ag tractors as being able to adjust the tire spacing to accomodate row crop farming with 76" - 80" tire centerline adjustments being the normal distance for the tires. Most CUT even on the widest tire spacing cant accomodate that wide of a stance.