Snow Difference between Snowblowers

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What is the difference between a single stage and dual or 2 stage snowblwer? (Other than cost) I am consider a front mounted unit because I don't like being turned around while I am using my back blade, but the front mounted units are single stage and the rears are 2 stage. What's better? We get lots of snow generally. This will be going on a BX25. Thanks for the help.
 
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Two stage is better. Single stage will have a paddle, or paddles in the center of the auger that throws the snow. It all turns at the same speed. Two stage has a set of augers that feed snow into an impeller in the center that spins much faster than the augers.
 
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All the Kubota front blowers I have seen are dual stage. Single stage is predominantly found on antiques and small walk behind power shovels.
 
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What is the difference between a single stage and dual or 2 stage snowblwer? (Other than cost) I am consider a front mounted unit because I don't like being turned around while I am using my back blade, but the front mounted units are single stage and the rears are 2 stage. What's better? We get lots of snow generally. This will be going on a BX25. Thanks for the help.



About Snow blowers: they are actually snow throwers whether single stage or 2 stage.


Starting the the smallest snow throwers:

They are single stage with two rubber paddles or curved mounted rubber belting to increase the throwing efficiency of the snow thrower they are either powered by 110 volt single phase electricity or 2 cycle or 4 cycle engines.


The small walk behind two stage snow throwers with have a single open cross auger arrangement with shear pins for both halves and a high speed impeller paddle with 4 paddles in the impeller drum.



The larger 2 stage walk behind snow throwers will have water or air cooled diesel engines, or high horsepower gas engines, track drive, one or two horizontal cross augers, large impeller fans to cast the snow a long distance, very wide and very wide snow cutting area and are adjustable to raise the cross auger and tilt it left or right and also allow cutting benches in deep snows to remove it in multiple passes.


The 2 stage snow throwers for front and rear mount:

some are single stage for the smaller lawn tractors with reduction belt drive and one to one gear box drive.

The front mounted snow throwers require an under frame mounting kit and either a mid PTO or an extended P.T.O. shaft and reversing gear arrangement to provide the proper rotation to the front blower.

The front mounted blowers cost more because of the underframe mount AND reduce the ground clearance of the tractor which is a huge consideration in snow removal.

The front mounted snow blowers may also have or require a reversing drive arrangement depending upon the equipmment builders mid- P.T.O., rotation.


The smaller rear mounts:

The smaller rear mounts operate at 540 r.p.m. and have an open auger configuration which conveys the snow to the inmpeller as the tractor advances in reverse while it snow is being forced into the impeller.


A slightly larger rear mount can be used but will require a slower ground speed depending upon the snow depth and pack wieght from freeze thaw cycles.

A rear mount will cost much less to purchase and can be used on another tractor if you trade where a front mount will not be able to be of use on another front mount arrangement and new tractor.

With the open station you can twist slightly in the seat and use a suicide knob and steer the tractor with little effort and ease of operation because the suicide knob gives you huge steering swing with little effort and the tractor will follow the snow blower with precision.

The addition of hydraulics to operate the chute and the spout if you have dual remotes will make snow removal much easier.

The front mounts require the use of a four way valve if hydraulic ontrol is desired or can be equiped with electric controls.

As long as you have a good seat and a cushion if you need one, moving slightly turning in the seat to watch as you advance while backin in reverse or adding a pair of mirrors as well as a suicide knob to the steering wheel you will have no trouble with a rear mount blower.

You will have a better time finding buying an Allied from Ken Sweet as he is a sponsor in good standing here on the forum or a Pronovost snow blower as the sub contractor who builds the snow throwers for Kubota is RAD and they build machines for many lines.

The smallest single stage rear mount snowblowers with the large rotary drums or propeller fans require a larger horsepower tractor than a BX25.
 
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Don't even consider a single stage snow blower. Useless.
 
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About Snow blowers: they are actually snow throwers whether single stage or 2 stage.


Starting the the smallest snow throwers:

They are single stage with two rubber paddles or curved mounted rubber belting to increase the throwing efficiency of the snow thrower they are either powered by 110 volt single phase electricity or 2 cycle or 4 cycle engines.


The small walk behind two stage snow throwers with have a single open cross auger arrangement with shear pins for both halves and a high speed impeller paddle with 4 paddles in the impeller drum.



The larger 2 stage walk behind snow throwers will have water or air cooled diesel engines, or high horsepower gas engines, track drive, one or two horizontal cross augers, large impeller fans to cast the snow a long distance, very wide and very wide snow cutting area and are adjustable to raise the cross auger and tilt it left or right and also allow cutting benches in deep snows to remove it in multiple passes.


The 2 stage snow throwers for front and rear mount:

some are single stage for the smaller lawn tractors with reduction belt drive and one to one gear box drive.

The front mounted snow throwers require an under frame mounting kit and either a mid PTO or an extended P.T.O. shaft and reversing gear arrangement to provide the proper rotation to the front blower.

The front mounted blowers cost more because of the underframe mount AND reduce the ground clearance of the tractor which is a huge consideration in snow removal.

The front mounted snow blowers may also have or require a reversing drive arrangement depending upon the equipmment builders mid- P.T.O., rotation.


The smaller rear mounts:

The smaller rear mounts operate at 540 r.p.m. and have an open auger configuration which conveys the snow to the inmpeller as the tractor advances in reverse while it snow is being forced into the impeller.


A slightly larger rear mount can be used but will require a slower ground speed depending upon the snow depth and pack wieght from freeze thaw cycles.

A rear mount will cost much less to purchase and can be used on another tractor if you trade where a front mount will not be able to be of use on another front mount arrangement and new tractor.

With the open station you can twist slightly in the seat and use a suicide knob and steer the tractor with little effort and ease of operation because the suicide knob gives you huge steering swing with little effort and the tractor will follow the snow blower with precision.

The addition of hydraulics to operate the chute and the spout if you have dual remotes will make snow removal much easier.

The front mounts require the use of a four way valve if hydraulic ontrol is desired or can be equiped with electric controls.

As long as you have a good seat and a cushion if you need one, moving slightly turning in the seat to watch as you advance while backin in reverse or adding a pair of mirrors as well as a suicide knob to the steering wheel you will have no trouble with a rear mount blower.

You will have a better time finding buying an Allied from Ken Sweet as he is a sponsor in good standing here on the forum or a Pronovost snow blower as the sub contractor who builds the snow throwers for Kubota is RAD and they build machines for many lines.

The smallest single stage rear mount snowblowers with the large rotary drums or propeller fans require a larger horsepower tractor than a BX25.

No that is an impressive summary of snow thrower/blower information. I think this will reappear in the future in many quotes. Hat's off to you LEONZ.

As for the OP the vast majority of available snow throwers/blowers nowadays are double stage and even the cheaper ones work quite well.
 
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The front mounted blowers cost more because of the underframe mount AND reduce the ground clearance of the tractor which is a huge consideration in snow removal.

Why is it a huge consideration? It's true that the clearance is reduced, but the snow is cleared before the subframe contacts anything. Additionally, the subframe comes off easily if you need the ground clearance or want to put the FEL back on.
 
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WOW Leonz! Thanks man! That was a great explanation. Next question....please don't shoot the messenger, I am asking timidly and politly here. I don't understand why I am being corrected about it being a snow thrower as opposed to a snow blower. When you go to the Kubota website, it's a 50" snow blower. Am I over simplifying things saying that its the same as calling an F 150, and a GMC 1500 both half ton pickup trucks. They are, they both do the same thing, both cost the same, bla bla bla. Do we need to just accept that they both do the same thing and one guy calls it one way and another guy calls it another way, and we accept that. I'm not calling you out, as I have been corrected before, I'm just asking and trying to be very polite and humble. Thank you again for taking the time and making the effort to give such a complete and well informed answer. Have a great weekend.

John
 

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