One of the things that just irks me is OPEC statement that they would reduce supply because there is too much oil out there. Why would anyone believe that? Our dependence on outside oil sources is of our own doing as far as I can tell, so we're paying. Let's just be glad we don't live in Europe or other countries where it's been over $4/gal for a long time. John
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$4.00 a gallon in Europe really isn't bad considering only the affluent drive gas guzzlers like we do here. Most Europeans drive small-fuel efficient cars or motorbikes plus, they have one car for the whole family.
We have a car for every family member and most are very inefficient. We use the car or SUV to go to the corner. We don't car pool anymore or use mass transportation. Most of us live a good way from our jobs so we drive everyday. Eurpoeans don't.
You can't compare Europe to the United States. They got "smart" years ago, we didn't. Hope we don't pay too dearly.
$4.00 a gallon in Europe really isn't bad considering only the affluent drive gas guzzlers like we do here. Most Europeans drive small-fuel efficient cars or motorbikes plus, they have one car for the whole family.
We have a car for every family member and most are very inefficient. We use the car or SUV to go to the corner. We don't car pool anymore or use mass transportation. Most of us live a good way from our jobs so we drive everyday. Eurpoeans don't.
You can't compare Europe to the United States. They got "smart" years ago, we didn't. Hope we don't pay too dearly.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You can't compare Europe to the United States. They got "smart" years ago, we didn't. Hope we don't pay too dearly. )</font> I agree Daryl, and not to mention the public transportation is much better than most places here in the US. Ever try taking an AMtrak trip here? First, they are very rude when you call, and almost always try to say they're full when you see them go by half full. Plus, it costs a lot to take the train. I would much rather have some good public transport instead of always having to drive my car, but the geography is too great here I suppose. I loved it when I lived in NYC and only had to catch a subway or bus for very little money really. Less than all the upkeep, insurance, etc. of owning a car. I now try to only make necessary trips and drive a 30mpg auto which should be a 50mpg auto. John
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I wouldn't live in the city if everything was free. I don't like public transportation I want to go when I want to go. I like the freedom of country living and driving a big truck even if it only gets 12 MPG and playing in the dirt. the area we live now is growing with city folks moving out to the country and bringing all their city ways with them and trying to change the way we live in the country. seems to me if they want all they say they like about city living they would just stay there. like building a 100 home subdivision next to a pig farm and then trying to get the pig farm shut down because they don't like the smell.
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I wouldn't live in the city if everything was free. I don't like public transportation I want to go when I want to go. I like the freedom of country living and driving a big truck even if it only gets 12 MPG and playing in the dirt. the area we live now is growing with city folks moving out to the country and bringing all their city ways with them and trying to change the way we live in the country. seems to me if they want all they say they like about city living they would just stay there. like building a 100 home subdivision next to a pig farm and then trying to get the pig farm shut down because they don't like the smell.
Charlie
There's a famous story of a development next to a pig farm in Martin County, Florida (West of Stuart, about 40 miles North of West Palm Beach). Here's a link to one side of the story.... pig farm. Also, a link to a 4 year old story on CNN: pig farmer and a followup story on CNN: swine song and a funny story from Golf Digest: golf course vs. pig farm.
Frankly, I don't remember the final outcome of the story, but I think the pig farm is still there. BradK lives nearby and appraises property like that in the Florida Club, maybe he can bring the story up to date.
At one point, I understand the developers were playing pop music back at the pig farm, which the pig farmer said upset them and made them lose weight. He said when he's ready to slaughter pigs, he switches from country music to a few minutes of Michael Bolton, which makes the pigs want to die.
Frankly, I don't remember the final outcome of the story, but I think the pig farm is still there. BradK lives nearby and appraises property like that in the Florida Club, maybe he can bring the story up to date.
At one point, I understand the developers were playing pop music back at the pig farm, which the pig farmer said upset them and made them lose weight. He said when he's ready to slaughter pigs, he switches from country music to a few minutes of Michael Bolton, which makes the pigs want to die.
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well, I eat like a pig sometimes and have been called a pig a few times and I sure do like the old country music. I would say move the Golf course or close it down and turn up the country music and make the pigs happy and fat we need more pork shoulders to BBQ.
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well, I eat like a pig sometimes and have been called a pig a few times and I sure do like the old country music. I would say move the Golf course or close it down and turn up the country music and make the pigs happy and fat we need more pork shoulders to BBQ.
Charlie.
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The reason that fuel is $4/ gallon in Europe is because of taxes. They pay about the same price per gallon that we do but they have $2 and $3/gallon taxes on it.
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Now that is useful information. I have been hearing about the "High" cost of fuel in Europe for thirty years and for the last twenty five have wondered how this "Apparent" inequity could persist (for the first five I just thought too bad for them /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I've wondered about refining capabilities as opposed to shorter transportation costs. Taxes explains it all and makes me feel like a dumb chump for not thinking of it. Of course make that a lucky dumb chump for being on this side of the pond. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Yep take out the taxes and relative to everything else fuel still isn't bad. I just contracted our fuel for the ranch for the summer and it was $1.12 per gallon.
