Disc/Harrow question...

[Snitch]

I have access to a 19hp tractor, and need to disc my arena I ride in.. Where can I locate a cheap used disc - used would be great? we spread dirt, and it was not the correct mixture of sand w/the clay and it is hard now. I want to disc then add more sand then disc it in.. Located in South Louisiana.

Thanks.

 

[MarkLeininger]

You can't pull much of a disc with 19hp. How big an area do you have to do? Might be easier to pay a farmer to drive over and do it for you. Heck, you'll probably be underwater before long, just wait for the next hurricane to mix it for you.

 

[Lewiston]

Unfortunately Mark is correct 19HP just won't be able to pull a disc heavy enough to give you the results you desire. Depending on the area you need to till, you may get by renting a 5' rotovator/tiller.

In smaller areas I can get by pulling a tandem 9' disc but only if the soils been previously worked. My larger fields require a 90+ HP tractor pulling a much larger setup with 24" discs. My fields are primarily sand/loam.

Take care,

 

[deere755]

I disagree that a 19 hp tractor will not pull a disk. My son pulled a 6 1/2 ft. disk with a 2 bar harrow behind a 20 hp tractor and I would guess he disked close to 20 acres last spring in wildlife plots. Maybe in your type soil 19 hp is not enough. I would look at a 5 ft. or a 5 1/2 ft. if you have any dought that you don't have enough hp. I am not sure about your area but a used cheap disk is hard to find in mine. I would try e-bay or maybe Tractorhouse.com.

 

[Egon]

In this case deep and aggressive may not be quite as important to the job at hand as it is to crop tillage.

A smaller disk that is set to a less aggressive angle may do what is desired and may even be preferable to a deep cutting disk.

Matching the disk to the tractor size will be the major factor.

 

[kthompson]

Spend the money on hiring some one with larger tractor and heavy disk. It is not just the hp but the weight of the tractor and what weight disk it will even lift safely. If you find a single gang disk (one with one row of blades only) it would be a better match. If the soil is hard, a light weight disk often will just ride on top. You can mix the soil with a single moldboard plow and that may work. But, if you only need it for a one time job, hire it done or rent tractor and disk together. BTW, the sandier the soil, the softer it is and the harder a disk is to pull. kt

 

[rhett]

hi Snitch,

my little 16 PTO hp yanmar pulls 5' discs just fine. i removed the 4 outer discs so i could use more aggressive angle settings and it seems to also cut a little deeper. several passes should start mixing things up pretty good. a rotary tiller would mix/chop things up much finer though.

you could also look at this thread 7 ft disk to big? also you could try 'Louisiana Sportsman Classifieds" online for possible used stuff but kinda hard to find.

MarkLeininger, i am still cleaning up from that breeze. what a mess it made !!!

Rhett

 

[RollTideRam]

You should be able to pull a 5' disc, may have be less agressive with it, but it will work. Ag tires and 4wd will be a bonus. You will have to get out to find a used disc. I picked up a lighter duty 6' last week, but had to drive 2 hours to get it. JC

 

[pitt_md]

I don't know if you have an ATV but they make smaller discs to be pulled behing them. I had one for a while and it did a good job on my garden.

 

[Snitch]

I put in an arena at my place 130x230 and the dirt we had delivered was not what we wanted. it had to much Clay mixed in the sand.. so it gets rather hard. I need to disc it and chop it up so I can get straight sand delivered and disc it in to the dirt we already have.

Thanks for the replys... Down here they want a darn arm and a leg to have some dumb *** that doesn't know how to work ground for horses to come and disc it up... for a job that should only take them about 45 min w/ a nice size tractor they want $350.. BS.. I could buy the equipment I need and do a better job myself. So that is what I am working on...

 

[wushaw]

Instead of a disk harrow wouldn't something like this work a little better for your application?
King Kutter Incorporated

 

[RobJ]

Instead of a disk harrow wouldn't something like this work a little better for your application?
King Kutter Incorporated

I had to dig deeper...these are cool, maybe my next project!!

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[Snitch]

Will either work on extreamly hard ground? I have a grader that I use and it cuts great on the area of the arena that is just sand (when I got my 1st 21 loads of dirt, I got the sandy,sandy clay and it was perfect). but after the arena set up for a year to allow the ground to settle (where I took out trees) there were some holes to fill in.. and that is when the wrong dirt was delivered. 13 loads of sandy clay.. and I paid a guy to spread it, but made sure he didn't spread it out on the outside of the arena so I could still train w/out having to be on ground like cement.

So.. those things look like they would be great if I didn't need to chop up ground that is like cement. I pull the arean daily with the drag I have that has big teeth and weighted down, but it will not break up the dirt deep enough.

What do you think? I'm up for any suggestions.

 

[pitt_md]

Will either work on extreamly hard ground? I have a grader that I use and it cuts great on the area of the arena that is just sand (when I got my 1st 21 loads of dirt, I got the sandy,sandy clay and it was perfect). but after the arena set up for a year to allow the ground to settle (where I took out trees) there were some holes to fill in.. and that is when the wrong dirt was delivered. 13 loads of sandy clay.. and I paid a guy to spread it, but made sure he didn't spread it out on the outside of the arena so I could still train w/out having to be on ground like cement.

So.. those things look like they would be great if I didn't need to chop up ground that is like cement. I pull the arean daily with the drag I have that has big teeth and weighted down, but it will not break up the dirt deep enough.

What do you think? I'm up for any suggestions.

I would consider renting a tiller for the back of your tractor to bust things up once a year. Use one of the rotory harrows to keep it in good shape.

 

[kthompson]

rhett: As to using 5 foot disk with outside blade remove, my guess is you are really about 4 feet wide now. But this is does show the flexibility of a disk.


snitch: Where is "down here"? The price you gave sounds like a land scaping person or construction site company. Talk with tractor dealer or country store in farming community for recommendations.

As to disking an arena which I HAVE NEVER DONE but it would seem you will be running in some form of an oval or circle. When you turn with a disk in the ground, you will find out about light weight front ends and the stress on the tractor arms and disk. You will find this is where the weight and hp (I believe) will be too light on both. But have been wrong before.

In business your best friend is often someone else in the same business, ask other horse people in your area for recommendations on who can work the arena. kt

 

[N80]

I would think a light duty (like a KK with angle iron) 5' disk would be just right for a 19 hp tractor in a riding arena. It does not sound that 'tillage' is the issue and that the disk would be functioning more like a harrow than a plow.

Like this:

Or this:

 

[Snitch]

Down here is South Louisiana!... I hired a guy who owns his own tractor and figured i'm a girl.. so he could name his price.. becuase I needed the work done. That is why I am going to do the rest myself. I just about wanted to grab him off the tractor to show him how to do it since he could understand what I wanted him to do when I asked him to clear the land.. I had to call my horse trainer (guy) to come and tell the tractor guy exactly how to do it.

 

[greggh]

Down here is South Louisiana!... I hired a guy who owns his own tractor and figured I'm a girl.. so he could name his price.. because I needed the work done. That is why I am going to do the rest myself. I just about wanted to grab him off the tractor to show him how to do it since he could understand what I wanted him to do when I asked him to clear the land.. I had to call my horse trainer (guy) to come and tell the tractor guy exactly how to do it.

If your arena is like cement, I am not sure if a disk will work. If you have made a slight exaggeration then the disk-harrow will work. You might have to make several passes over the arena to condition the arena to your satisifaction. Also I think that you shouldn't let it set that long without re-conditioning the arena.

Good luck and let us know how it works out. Pictures are good to show off your work.

 

[Snitch]

As I stated, I work the pen with the drag just about daily after riding, but when it rains and I cannot drag the pen and the sun beats on it for a day or two then the middle gets very hard and the teeth of the grader will not penitrate into the ground. some sand will cut but now as deep as it needs to be to have good footing for the horses. I think the photos of the small 5ft. disc is what I'm going to have to get to chop up the ground and get the slight impressions out of the arena.. I can drag with my grader after tearing up the ground to level it and get it nice for riding.

Thanks for the input guys.. I will be looking to purchase a 20-25hp JD w/front end loader and attachements soon... I don't want to have to depend on getting someone to help if I can do my work myself. I use to live in New Orleans till Katrina wiped me out... I now have this 6 acres and am trying to get it up and working for my horses. (race horses & barrel horses)

City girl turned totally country...

 

[Lewiston]

Thanks for the replys... Down here they want a darn arm and a leg to have some dumb *** that doesn't know how to work ground for horses to come and disc it up... for a job that should only take them about 45 min w/ a nice size tractor they want $350.. BS.. I could buy the equipment I need and do a better job myself. So that is what I am working on...

Ouch! I could have 30 acres done for that price from a guys that know their machinery inside and out.