Dish Network vs Direct TV

[Pixguy]

Of course they are going to state their case in their light which is more money for them. However, it costs the broadcaster nothing. Dish and other providers pick it up off the air and rebroadcast it and if anyone pays for that it is them. The broadcaster has a license to use the public's bandwidth to broadcast and their advertising income already covers their costs and profit. By charging the other providers who rebroadcast even more money they are trying to pass along more costs along to us the customers unfairly which is pure profit for the broadcaster. Dish or the other's aren't going to take it out of their pockets as all costs are passed along to consumers who eventually have to pay for it. The point is why should I a member of the public pay for something that others receive out of the air for free? Are we not part of the public too? The sooner everyone gets that simple fact though their heads the more other stuff will make more sense. Taxes on business for example are all past along and eventually paid by us the end consumer at the end of the chain. A tax on business is simply a disguised tax on we the people. There simply are no free lunches. No part of any product or service chain is going to absorb the costs for anything, they will simply pass it along to us to pay for instead. It's just that simple. If anything they will add a profit surcharge on top of it and we end up paying even more. Let's keep it simple. Broadcasters are in business and licensed to use public bandwidth to broadcast so they should be made to stick to their knitting.

Well said, I've thought the same thing, why is my local broadcaster holding out for more money? Pure greed.

I was talking to a Maine fast food restaurant owner the other day where the minimum wage went up to $9 this year and $10 next year. He figures it's costing $.19 per item to cover the wage increase. You figure that he's raising $.19 ? Nope, $.25 ea item. Greed? Yup and it rolls downhill to us, the consumer.

 

[dickfoster]

Well said, I've thought the same thing, why is my local broadcaster holding out for more money? Pure greed.

I was talking to a Maine fast food restaurant owner the other day where the minimum wage went up to $9 this year and $10 next year. He figures it's costing $.19 per item to cover the wage increase. You figure that he's raising $.19 ? Nope, $.25 ea item. Greed? Yup and it rolls downhill to us, the consumer.

The minimum wage is yet another idiotic exercise. Ever notice however much the minimum wage goes up the same people stay in the very same hand to mouth fix that they were already in. All it does is send the gubberment to the printing press to print up more currency which in effect makes the real minimum wage stay the same while taxing and stealing from the rest of us. Stealing not only what we will have but what we already have. They have all sorts of stupid names for it like quantitative easing but in the end it's just another form of hidden tax. This whole baseless currency idea is just so much pure ******** but it lets the politicans get away with murder and worse.

 

[Pixguy]

The minimum wage is yet another idiotic exercise. Ever notice however much the minimum wage goes up the same people stay in the very same hand to mouth fix that they were already in. All it does is send the gubberment to the printing press to print up more currency which in effect makes the real minimum wage stay the same while taxing and stealing from the rest of us. Stealing not only what we will have but what we already have. They have all sorts of stupid names for it like quantitative easing but in the end it's just another form of hidden tax. This whole baseless currency idea is just so much pure ******** but it lets the politicans get away with murder and worse.

I agree but we should end it before we get any further down the political path. We speak of this all the time in the Friendly Politics area but should refrain from it here.

Thanks

 

[dickfoster]

I agree but we should end it before we get any further down the political path. We speak of this all the time in the Friendly Politics area but should refrain from it here.

Thanks

What friendly politics area? I don't see any such folder.
Besides this isn't politics it's basic economics and fact which is based on the natural law of supply and demand which will always be adhered to no matter who or what tries to suspend it.

 

[Pixguy]

What friendly politics area? I don't see any such folder. Besides this isn't politics it's basic economics and fact which is based on the natural law of supply and demand which will always be adhered to no matter who or what tries to suspend it.

Some get offended when we speak of economics and hint of politics and I'm just following TBN rules.
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[dragoneggs]

What friendly politics area? I don't see any such folder.
Besides this isn't politics it's basic economics and fact which is based on the natural law of supply and demand which will always be adhered to no matter who or what tries to suspend it.

You may have to go into your settings and permission groups and toggle a setting. Can't remember exactly.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I'm in the same boat, addicted to M/C racing, especially Moto GP and Real Roadracing AKA Isle of Mann. Also the Outdoors channel for shooting sports. A couple weeks ago I put together a list of all the channels I had DVRed shows on, maybe three dozen out of the 200+ on offer. Then I found the minimum packages at DirecTV and Dish that would get me that channel list. Dish was about twenty bux a month less than DirecTV because one of those channels was only available with the second most expensive package at DirecTV. So I'm still sticking with Dish, at least for the time being. None of the off brand DVRs work as well or as accurate in capturing programming as the 10 year old TiVo I had when I first signed up with DirecTV. The TiVo patents keep the others in also ran status, but I don't think TiVo makes a satellite unit any longer. The Dish Hopper I have now is a couple years old and still works fine, though I don't use the extra one in the bedroom very much and haven't formed much of an opinion on how well it works.

Of course they are going to state their case in their light which is more money for them. However, it costs the broadcaster nothing. Dish and other providers pick it up off the air and rebroadcast it and if anyone pays for that it is them. The broadcaster has a license to use the public's bandwidth to broadcast and their advertising income already covers their costs and profit. By charging the other providers who rebroadcast even more money they are trying to pass along more costs along to us the customers unfairly which is pure profit for the broadcaster. Dish or the other's aren't going to take it out of their pockets as all costs are passed along to consumers who eventually have to pay for it. The point is why should I a member of the public pay for something that others receive out of the air for free? Are we not part of the public too? The sooner everyone gets that simple fact though their heads the more other stuff will make more sense. Taxes on business for example are all past along and eventually paid by us the end consumer at the end of the chain. A tax on business is simply a disguised tax on we the people. There simply are no free lunches. No part of any product or service chain is going to absorb the costs for anything, they will simply pass it along to us to pay for instead. It's just that simple. If anything they will add a profit surcharge on top of it and we end up paying even more. Let's keep it simple. Broadcasters are in business and licensed to use public bandwidth to broadcast so they should be made to stick to their knitting.

The extra cost to satellite customers is the fault of the individual local stations that are mostly all owned by large conglomerates. They hate it when you get your TV for free over the air. They wish they could scramble but they get the airwaves for free from us. Arggh.

As of today, Dish charges $10/month for local channels in my area. ARGGH!

What friendly politics area? I don't see any such folder.
Besides this isn't politics it's basic economics and fact which is based on the natural law of supply and demand which will always be adhered to no matter who or what tries to suspend it.

You have to send in a request to be added to friendly politics.

RNG, the MotoGP is probably going to be back on BeIn Channel which Dish only carries on their highest package at $79/month base. I did some research and found out BeIn's parent company is part of Al Jazeera. I'm rethinking about sending them any money.

I worked up a package estimate with the $79/month channel lineup. (Which also has the American Heroes/former Military channel at this level only) and it came out to $101 a month for a Hopper 3 (4K ready), 1 Joey for a 2nd TV, local channels, HD. Installation was free, but a $50 Hopper 1 time lease fee up front.

 

[aczlan]

You have to send in a request to be added to friendly politics.

Not any more. You can just go into settings and permission groups, then enable Friendly Politics.

Aaron Z

 

[NoTrespassing]

I finally cancelled Dish Network. The conversation was amusing to say the least. They had raised my bill twice in 3 months and I'd had enough. The last increase was 10$ for equipment rental. I believe I was paying 16.99/month for obsolete standard definition 2 tuner DVR. They offered to give me the same deal as a new customer but I refused. After almost 20 years as a customer I had finally had enough. The funniest part was when I asked if they wanted their box back and they said, "no, it's obsolete". I said, "so you've been charging me 16.99 per month for obsolete equipment you want me to throw in the garbage and you wonder why I'm cancelling my service." They offered no reply.

Kevin

 

[RedNeckGeek]

RNG, the MotoGP is probably going to be back on BeIn Channel which Dish only carries on their highest package at $79/month base. I did some research and found out BeIn's parent company is part of Al Jazeera. I'm rethinking about sending them any money.

I worked up a package estimate with the $79/month channel lineup. (Which also has the American Heroes/former Military channel at this level only) and it came out to $101 a month for a Hopper 3 (4K ready), 1 Joey for a 2nd TV, local channels, HD. Installation was free, but a $50 Hopper 1 time lease fee up front.

Yep, that's about what I am paying now, and after a long phone call they won't budge on the price. I think I started with the same package three years ago at $65/month. I'm just glad inflation isn't going up as fast as Dish's prices.

Maybe it's time to see if I can get any OTA channels here. Most of the rest of what I watch regularly is available via Netflix or other streaming services. And it seems like lately the MotoGP races just collect on the DVR and never get watched anyway...