Diverter Sanity Check

[avc8130]

This brings me to a new question: will I be able to use a snow plow with this setup?

ac

 

[kennyd]

For me...Pushing the joystick right opens the grapple. My "brain logic" is push away, dump, open, let go. Moving the joystick left is curl, pull in, hold.

On most Kub's, regen is active at the first part of of joystick travel (to the right) so you have to push past that to get out of regen, I do not know if you machine is like that however. John Deere's is opposite-regen active at the furthest position.

I would try to figure this out first, then we can discuss a HPHD-but if regen is active all the time, I don't think its going to work.

 

[avc8130]

For me...Pushing the joystick right opens the grapple. My "brain logic" is push away, dump, open, let go. Moving the joystick left is curl, pull in, hold.

On most Kub's, regen is active at the first part of of joystick travel (to the right) so you have to push past that to get out of regen, I do not know if you machine is like that however. John Deere's is opposite-regen active at the furthest position.

I would try to figure this out first, then we can discuss a HPHD-but if regen is active all the time, I don't think its going to work.

That's how I wanted it. That way when curling you could instantly switch to gripping. Seems to make sense when grabbing brush. When I used the grapple last it just seemed backwards the whole time with my hand constantly swinging back and forth. As it is now, right closes the grapple. I guess I could look into flipping the hydraulic cylinders. I'd lose a bit of the close force, but at least it would work in the right direction.

How would I find out how the regen works on my machine?

What is HPHD?

ac

 

[kennyd]

How would I find out how the regen works on my machine?

Perhaps ask the dealer? Owners manual? Shop manual? It's also referred to as "fast dump", that may help.

What is HPHD?

Hydraulic Post Hole Digger, sorry!

 

[avc8130]

Perhaps ask the dealer? Owners manual? Shop manual? It's also referred to as "fast dump", that may help.



Hydraulic Post Hole Digger, sorry!

Shop Manual! Duh!

Googling is coming up empty, but realistically my loader valve doesn't have a detent to the right I can feel so I'm pretty sure this isn't looking good :-(.

ac

 

[Xfaxman]

That's how I wanted it. That way when curling you could instantly switch to gripping. Seems to make sense when grabbing brush. When I used the grapple last it just seemed backwards the whole time with my hand constantly swinging back and forth. As it is now, right closes the grapple. I guess I could look into flipping the hydraulic cylinders. I'd lose a bit of the close force, but at least it would work in the right direction.

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ac

I think you only have to swap hoses from the cylinders to reverse the direction of operation.

 

[avc8130]

This isn't looking good:



I guess I'm pretty much SOL on this thing. I wish I knew (and UNDERSTOOD) about this regen thing before I went down this endeavor. I would have never done a diverter on this machine. Now I'm debating ripping the whole thing off and starting over with a 3rd function valve.

ac

 

[lennyzx11]

This isn't looking good:



I guess I'm pretty much SOL on this thing. I wish I knew (and UNDERSTOOD) about this regen thing before I went down this endeavor. I would have never done a diverter on this machine. Now I'm debating ripping the whole thing off and starting over with a 3rd function valve.

ac

I'm working my way through installing one on a Kubota L3301 now. Can you possibly save it by using the lift circuit as the feed instead of the curl circuit?
That's what I plan on doing per advice here.
Lenny

 

[avc8130]

I'm working my way through installing one on a Kubota L3301 now. Can you possibly save it by using the lift circuit as the feed instead of the curl circuit?
That's what I plan on doing per advice here.
Lenny

Lenny,

The lift circuit should work. I plan to try living with it as is for now. I think I can get used to the grapple operating backwards just as easily as getting used it it operating forward/backward on the stick. I picked up a snowplow this evening that uses a single DA cylinder on the left side. If my brain logic is working properly this should work just fine with the setup as is. Right on the stick should be angle right. I'll know tomorrow when I get a chance to unload it from the truck, swap quick connectors and hook it up.

ac

 

[avc8130]

Lenny,

The lift circuit should work. I plan to try living with it as is for now. I think I can get used to the grapple operating backwards just as easily as getting used it it operating forward/backward on the stick. I picked up a snowplow this evening that uses a single DA cylinder on the left side. If my brain logic is working properly this should work just fine with the setup as is. Right on the stick should be angle right. I'll know tomorrow when I get a chance to unload it from the truck, swap quick connectors and hook it up.

ac

Look at me quoting my own post.

So I picked up the snowplow as described. Technically it "works". Diverter button down, left is left right is right. However, right takes an eternity. This makes sense as this is the direction that the cylinder is fighting itself.

I'm going to keep it as is, but I foresee myself swapping this diverter to the lift circuit or abandoning the whole thing and going true 3rd in the long run. Overall I'm pretty disappointed with this lesson.

ac