DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts?

[KKenser]

Hello,

New to the forum. I have a NH TC40D (I think I found on tractorbynet in 2004) with HST but we have had such a severe cold winter, I want a cab. I was looking at the Kioti. I'm about 600 miles round trip to the dealer but I work on most everything I own. I'm concerned about getting something with new technology until the bugs have been worked out (of course my kids make fun of me regarding technology). The DK50SE is Tier 3 while the NX's are Tier 4. The prices are good.

DK50SE HST Cab is rougly $29800
NX5510 HST Cab is rougly $33000
NX6010 HST Cab is roughly $35900

They also have a RX6010 power shift ($33,900), but my wife most likely could not work it. I like the fact that Kioti has an auxiliary 3-point lever at the rear. I have never owned a Kioti and I'm a long ways off from the dealer. Short of a major catastrophe I will not get warranty work done. Your knowledge thoughts and experience are welcomed.

Local dealers of Case, NH, and Kubots are about $1000 per horse power. I guess they feel they have a captive audience.


Aberdeen, SD

 

[grm61]

I don't know much about the tier 4 stuff...All I knew was I didn't want all that stuff on a tractor.
I was looking at some vids on youtube of some tier 4 tractors, you could not even see the engine through all the emissions stuff.

I bought my Tier3 DK45HST Cab last May to avoid Tier 4, (same tractor as the 50, smaller motor) Its a real simple tractor, mechanical injection, a throttle cable, and a muffler. Not a lot to go wrong with the engine.

I've been very happy with it, starts really well in cold weather, heat and A/C work great, comfortable, strong loader, its a brute, I spent 5 hours out today plowing snow, it was quite enjoyable:thumbsup:

 

[CJONE]

I have almost 400 hours on my DK50 in a year and a half and it has very good, nothing major or minor really and I use it hard. It's never abused and gets maintained well but it does not get babied. I can say the tractor has meet or exceeded my expectations and coming from a heavy equipment background it has had a lot to live up to. I would really stay away from the tier 4 stuff until it is proven, many many problems with the new emissions stuff on trucks. I jumped on the tier 3 as soon as I could afford it. I can't comment on the other 2 but the DK50 has been great for me. CJ

 

[engine29]

The above prices on the NX's are low by about 2-3000. DK50 price pretty close
All of the Kioti DK's are/ have been good tractors. Just FYI, most all DK cab models are gone at Kioti, limited to field inventory.
DK open station models still available through mid-summer.

 

[KKenser]

Thank you grm61 and CJONE for your input.

I am leaning towards the tier 3 DK50SE. I've have never purchased anything in it's first year of production because there will always be problems. They sound like solid tractors. I can just as easily talk myself out of the purchase because of need verses want. Unfortunately or fortunately, my wife gave me the go ahead to purchase.

 

[engine29]

Forgot, one thing about the new NX's is that they do not come standard w/ rear remotes, inside mirror and radio like the DK's did. So when pricing, to be comparable to the DK's those items need to be added in. That's another $7-800. I'm sure the above prices didn't include those items.

 

[engine29]

Better get while you have the approval. I would go for the DK50. Once it is gone, it's gone.

 

[TripleR]

Someone posted this some time ago, looks like a lot of nice features.

Kioti Tractor Walk Through with Jason Couture - YouTube

 

[Coyote machine]

I'd get the Kioti and service it yourself like many here do. Forget tier 4 for now, it's an infant without diapers. Could be ok but could crap all over you. Who needs the headache of being the crash test dummie for the latest as yet unproven technology. Nobody buys version 1.0 anything.

Kioti DK's are excellent. Between the DK-35, which was too small for my then unknown needs, and my DK-40 I've clocked over 1000 hours with no major issues, and few minor ones. There are some real supportive dealers who sell parts, service manuals, and give online access to parts schematics here on TBN so no worries to doing your own service.

 

[CJONE]

Thank you grm61 and CJONE for your input.

I am leaning towards the tier 3 DK50SE. I've have never purchased anything in it's first year of production because there will always be problems. They sound like solid tractors. I can just as easily talk myself out of the purchase because of need verses want. Unfortunately or fortunately, my wife gave me the go ahead to purchase.

What are you going to be using the tractor for? CJ

 

[KKenser]

I have 40 acres with 6 horses. I use it for moving hay bales, moving snow with the bucket and snowblower, garden tilling, and road maintenance. The New Holland TC40D HST works fine but it has no cab and I wanted more HP. I will be picking up the new DK50SE HST Cab on Friday. I will be selling the other one. I'm tired of the cold, it was -15 static temp on Monday with wind chills in the -40's. I'm looking forward to the new tractor and heat! A great Valentines gift from my wife! Of course she can use it.

 

[k0ua]

I have 40 acres with 6 horses. I use it for moving hay bales, moving snow with the bucket and snowblower, garden tilling, and road maintenance. The New Holland TC40D HST works fine but it has no cab and I wanted more HP. I will be picking up the new DK50SE HST Cab on Friday. I will be selling the other one. I'm tired of the cold, it was -15 static temp on Monday with wind chills in the -40's. I'm looking forward to the new tractor and heat! A great Valentines gift from my wife! Of course she can use it.

Good move, you will love your new Kioti. Welcome to the pack!

 

[TripleR]

Congratulations, you're going to love it.:thumbsup:

 

[grm61]

I have 40 acres with 6 horses. I use it for moving hay bales, moving snow with the bucket and snowblower, garden tilling, and road maintenance. The New Holland TC40D HST works fine but it has no cab and I wanted more HP. I will be picking up the new DK50SE HST Cab on Friday. I will be selling the other one. I'm tired of the cold, it was -15 static temp on Monday with wind chills in the -40's. I'm looking forward to the new tractor and heat! A great Valentines gift from my wife! Of course she can use it.

Congratulations! Since your jumping strait into very cold weather, I'll let you in on a observation I've made on my DK45.
If you start it in very cold weather and turn the temp up to hot, turn the fan to high and walk away for 20 minutes the gauge will barely come off cold.

If you leave the heater temp on cold, the temp gauge will come up between the dots (normal operating temp) in ten to 15 minutes minutes or so, you can get some heat in the motor that way.
When I start using the tractor (I just have a sweatshirt on) I bring the temp up gradually on the heater control so as not to blast the ice cold glass with very hot air and fog it out bad. I also run the A/C at the same time to pull the moisture off.
After you start running the heat, it takes about 15 minutes or so for the glass to normalize and stay fog free.
You'll figure it all out, your gonna love it, I wind up having to turn the temp and fan way down, ..It gets to hot!:laughing:
Check your loader frame bolts often.
Good luck! We need pics when you get it, TBN rules:drink:

 

[KKenser]

Thank you. I was not a big fan of the fuel tank being on top of the hood to fill it, but the more I have thought about it, is a good idea because it is better protected and the heat from the engine will help keep the diesel liquid. I will try to post a few pictures when I can.

 

[rmorey]

Congrats on the new tractor! Welcome to the pack! As all have said, you will love it., and yes, check those loader bolts...often! :thumbsup:

 

[k0ua]

Dont forget the wheel bolts too. Check often the first 100 hours. Then maybe every 100. It takes a while for them and the loader bolts to settle in..

 

[rmorey]

Re the fuel fill, I find I can lift the 5 gal can up to sit on the loader arm and it just tips into a funnel just right!

 

[k0ua]

After blowing the dust off the hood, I put down a soft terry cloth towel, then lift the fuel can to the loader arm, then re-grip it to tip it on its side on the towel on the hood with the nozzle pointing into the filler opening. The cans are the yellow plastic ones with the lever valve. I actuate the lever valve and let it glug out. This way I do not have to hold the can as all of its weight is on the towel on the hood. I just have to hold the valve open and that is not too hard. When the fuel gets below the neck of the nozzle, I tip up the can which weights about a pound by then and let the remainder drain out.

 

[CJONE]

I have 40 acres with 6 horses. I use it for moving hay bales, moving snow with the bucket and snowblower, garden tilling, and road maintenance. The New Holland TC40D HST works fine but it has no cab and I wanted more HP. I will be picking up the new DK50SE HST Cab on Friday. I will be selling the other one. I'm tired of the cold, it was -15 static temp on Monday with wind chills in the -40's. I'm looking forward to the new tractor and heat! A great Valentines gift from my wife! Of course she can use it.

Sounds like the 50 will be perfect for you. I am really really impressed with how mine runs a snowblower. I use it for blowing back banks from plow trucks and it has done very good. I have a 7' wide twin auger blower with a 27" fan, I can go through a foot of fresh snow in medium at max speed with no issue. If you use your loader a lot [and you will] check the mount bolts at 5-10 hours then every 25 or so after. Once mine got to 100 hours they stayed tight with the exception of 1 or 2. The tires I have never had a issue with. The pin retainer bolts will loosen all the time on the loader, [I have lost 1 or 2] but it is not a big deal because they also have a retaining clip. So check them also. The heater and AC work very well, it was 21 below zero here awhile ago and I was warm without a coat with the fan on 3. No the tractor will not build heat at idle at cold temps, most diesels won't. HAVE YOUR DEALER INSTALL A BLOCK HEATER! They start very good without them but instant heat and a quick start are worth it in my book. Get some Lucas hydraulic oil treatment, it helps with the notchy shifting between ranges. Also have them load the rear tires, the loader is almost useless without counter weight. I have loaded tires and a 1000lb box blade and it will still lift the back tires off with the curl function so just a FYI. I would buy this unit again without reservation. CJ