Just 2 cents from another GA member .... you may want to look elsewhere.... even getting the driver lincense here would be of limited use.
Good luck!
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Just 2 cents from another GA member .... you may want to look elsewhere.... even getting the driver lincense here would be of limited use.
Good luck!
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Smoody
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I would scrap the deal and move on, to much hassle and there are to many RELIABLE resources for obtaining a Yanmar. You just said 150hrs since a recondition, meaning its probably a VN recon, and if you have done any reading on this forum you know the REP these machines have.
Not to mention the $5,500 price tag, which in my opinion is way to much for a dinky 1510...
Pass on it..
Not to mention the $5,500 price tag, which in my opinion is way to much for a dinky 1510...
Pass on it..
mus302
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It is hard to say whether or not this is a good deal. The fact that you are trading a motorcycle for the tractor complicates things. But one of the things that would concern me the most would be the 5 hour drive just to take a look at it. After driving 5 hours, and of course the seller is doing the same, you will both feel a certain amount of pressure to complete the deal. After spending so much time and certain amount of expense just getting there, the urge to get something for the effort will be pretty great. At that point would you be able to just walk away empty handed?
Just got an e-mail and phone call from seller. He assured me tractor has been in tallahasse since he has owned it. 4wd lever was shortened and repositioned because when he put the new steering rod on the lever got in the way. 4wd works but he engages it now with his foot (sounds strange but nothing I assume I couldn't change back with a correct steering arm.) He says the parts manual is for a 86D (186D?) - maybe if the hubs are different, the steering rod is too. Steering jerk started happening about 6 months ago and happens often. He has not run it much since then and has not taken it to anyone to try and fix. Muffler I can fix. Loader controls he sent another pic and I'm really not sure what I am looking at to tell what's not mounted right. Decompression spring etc I can fix. Atlanta is a long haul and tractor sounds as if it needs work. Trading for the bike does make it a unique deal (I can't get a tractor without selling bike first). Book on bike is $5200 retail so I'm not sure how far that will get anyway. I like the idea of walking away if something screams at me, but if I make the trip, I intend on coming back with a tractor. I just don't need another birdbath in the yard!
Smoody
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It has all these issues on a recondition? trust me man, pass on it.
deepNdirt
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for the trade or the amount of trade I would not want to fix anything more then airing up a tire, what size is your cycle 1300cc or 1800cc ? and what year? looks like 06-08 you may have already said but I haven't read back through every post, but the 1300 is worth rough 5-K and the 1800 worth roughly 7500 I would ask some these pro's here what would be the value range in the tractor you are talking about, then start adding cost of repairs?
I think 5-k to 7500 should buy you a good tractor without need of any repairs, the FEL are quite expensive and can run the value of a tractor up by 2500-3-k
for the distance you are having to travel I would have request much better and more detailed picture of the tractor, perhaps a video and sound how watching for excessive smoke, etc,etc, its really not too late to request one..
I think 5-k to 7500 should buy you a good tractor without need of any repairs, the FEL are quite expensive and can run the value of a tractor up by 2500-3-k
for the distance you are having to travel I would have request much better and more detailed picture of the tractor, perhaps a video and sound how watching for excessive smoke, etc,etc, its really not too late to request one..
mus302
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Look at it from a worst case scenario. If something goes wrong what are the chances of getting all or most of your money back? You would need to look at your local craigslist to see what the trailer, finish mower, box blade and rake would sell for used. The loader you could sell but the market for such an item would not be very big. They cost about $3000 new so you might want to figure $2000 or maybe $2500 selling it used.
Once all that is figured you will know basically what you are paying for the tractor by itself. My guess is that you could recover your costs by parting it out but that would be a lot of work and would take quite a bit of time.
I bought my tractor with a couple of implements but if you sutract what they could be sold for I paid about $1800-$2000 for my tractor by itself. It had no major issues. I spent about $200 in fluids, filters, sway chains and overrun clutch then put her to work.
If it was me, I would probably sell the motorcycle and then look for a tractor. Having money in hand gives you more options.
Once all that is figured you will know basically what you are paying for the tractor by itself. My guess is that you could recover your costs by parting it out but that would be a lot of work and would take quite a bit of time.
I bought my tractor with a couple of implements but if you sutract what they could be sold for I paid about $1800-$2000 for my tractor by itself. It had no major issues. I spent about $200 in fluids, filters, sway chains and overrun clutch then put her to work.
If it was me, I would probably sell the motorcycle and then look for a tractor. Having money in hand gives you more options.
MJPetersen
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It might still be a good deal as it does have lots of extras--box blade, rake, mower, loader It also has lots of problems. It probably would be a fair deal, but I am not sure it is a good first tractor. LMTC has a 2 wd 1510 with tiller and ROPS with UDTA certification for $4300 that is without other implements and no loader, but with a 6 month parts and labor warranty. That would be a MUCH better first tractor. And Ohio is probably not much farther from NC than is FL. For someone who has the flexibility to run a risk, and was knowledgeable of Yanmars, then this may be an acceptable deal. But I am nervous of this thing.
Mike
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careyo63
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Yanmar Tractors -- Parts -- Sales -- Service Check with these Folks. They have been around awhile UTDA also.
MJPetersen
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Yes Carey notes one major sources in the south for Yanmars. They do not have any 1510s in inventory. They do have some 1610Ds if you can use a physically larger tractor.
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The VN hack-shop shortened the shiftlever after they put on the only steering link they had in the junkpile out back. That right there took it outside the world of Yanmar and made the tractor junk.
And if the steering link wore out, then this tractor has enough hours (or lack of maintenance) to need an engine overhaul. Can you afford it?
What's wrong with this picture overall?? That's not really a Yanmar any more, it's a Frankenstein-mar built out of mismatched parts! It won't even steer properly, which is pretty basic. I can just imagine what else you will discover when you try to do some work with it.
And I can't imagine what you will discover when you look under the hood. Probably parts from several brands! Do you have the expertise to identify where all those parts came from?
He could only sell that to a newbie who doesn't know how to compare it to an intact Yanmar.
The five hour drive adds tremendous stress to git-er-done, which is exactly the opposite of what you need in order to look over a Frankenstein-mar.
He expects that nobody closer than 10 hours away would ever buy this freak cobbled-together jumble of mismatched parts.
And the price is waaay to high for what he has.
Run!!!!!
And if the steering link wore out, then this tractor has enough hours (or lack of maintenance) to need an engine overhaul. Can you afford it?
What's wrong with this picture overall?? That's not really a Yanmar any more, it's a Frankenstein-mar built out of mismatched parts! It won't even steer properly, which is pretty basic. I can just imagine what else you will discover when you try to do some work with it.
And I can't imagine what you will discover when you look under the hood. Probably parts from several brands! Do you have the expertise to identify where all those parts came from?
He could only sell that to a newbie who doesn't know how to compare it to an intact Yanmar.
The five hour drive adds tremendous stress to git-er-done, which is exactly the opposite of what you need in order to look over a Frankenstein-mar.
He expects that nobody closer than 10 hours away would ever buy this freak cobbled-together jumble of mismatched parts.
And the price is waaay to high for what he has.
Run!!!!!
mus302
Bronze Member
Add to that one of the previous owners appears to have been shortcut happy. The missing body panels were probably left off to make more room for the FEL lines. I have seen many pictures of 1510s and 186s that have loaders and those body panles installed so it leads me to believe that it was done to get the job done as quickly and easily as possible. The weld marks on the FEL brackets tell me the same thing. Shortening the 4 wheel drive lever is the same thng. Instead of taking the time to find the right parts it was quicker and easier to cut the lever. The question is how many other issues were dealt with the same way?
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careyo63
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The VN hack-shop shortened the shiftlever after .
NO I believe Redneck,VN hack-shop Would be more like it. A real good chance it's Local the more I look at it and the way things are done.The same place that Quoted me 280.00$ It might have even been more to replace a rear axle seal on my ym2000. First thing I did when I was able to get up and out this year. It kind of made me feel a little better knowing I wasn't totaly out of it. Got with the Guys at Hoye 15 bucks and about 2.5 hrs. still not a drip.And I was far from doing it in record time
Carey
