DO NOT BUY TC40/45

   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #101  
From what I've read it -does- look like he is having similar failures over and over again.. thus.. a dealer issue..

Soundguy

Cobra-R said:
Oh boy, this is hilarious. I am continually amused at how everybody is so quick to lay out blame, contrary to the evidence.

What are you guys going to say next, the dealer should be predicting Brian's next failures and fix them before they happen?

I am done with this.........I hope it all works out well for you, Brian. NH will help you out, no worries.

Brian
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #102  
Wow.. my jaw almost dropped when I read LC's message and hit the line where the new one broke.. glad it was just a plug in issue!!

Good luck LC!!!

Soundguy
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #103  
Cobra-R said:
Go read the post!!!!!!!!!!!...............
Go read my post where I quoted Brian saying it WAS a dealer problem.

The issue YOU fail to grasp is Brian has had MULTIPLE problems. Some which originated at the factory AND ones caused by his DEALER.
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #104  
Cobra-R said:
I have a TC40 hydro with a factory cab, I drove mine up a hill in high range (empty) and it too slowed down to aprox 5 mph(it pulled the engine down and started smoking some black smoke), I am concerned that there is something wrong with it like yours.

I may be able to give you some comparative info that could be helpful. I'm attaching a picture of a small hill on my property that I cannot climb with my tractor in high range (rabbit or turtle) if I have the loader on (empty) and my boxblade on the rear. If I have the loader off and a mower on the rear, I can just barely climb this hill in high-turtle if I feather the pedal just right to get the most torque to the rear wheels. The engine may smoke out the exhaust because it is normal for a diesel to smoke a little under load.

I can climb this hill in either low rabbit or turtle without a problem, even with the loader on and a scoop full of dirt. I have other hills that are steeper and require low-turtle if the bucket is full, but those are really "suicide" hills. I have twice found hills (in my pond) where I could not climb them in low-turtle with a full bucket (double-full of wet mud) because the wheels would spin even with the rear differential locked.

Now, some folks may say that I just posted this picture to show off wroughtn_harv's handywork or an excuse to show the Texas flag. They are probably at least partially correct. I'm guilty of doin' that a lot. :D
 

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   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #105  
jinman said:
I may be able to give you some comparative info that could be helpful. I'm attaching a picture of a small hill on my property that I cannot climb with my tractor in high range (rabbit or turtle) if I have the loader on (empty) and my boxblade on the rear. If I have the loader off and a mower on the rear, I can just barely climb this hill in high-turtle if I feather the pedal just right to get the most torque to the rear wheels. The engine may smoke out the exhaust because it is normal for a diesel to smoke a little under load.

I can climb this hill in either low rabbit or turtle without a problem, even with the loader on and a scoop full of dirt. I have other hills that are steeper and require low-turtle if the bucket is full, but those are really "suicide" hills. I have twice found hills (in my pond) where I could not climb them in low-turtle with a full bucket (double-full of wet mud) because the wheels would spin even with the rear differential locked.

Now, some folks may say that I just posted this picture to show off wroughtn_harv's handywork or an excuse to show the Texas flag. They are probably at least partially correct. I'm guilty of doin' that a lot. :D

Thanks Jim. I tried it on a road, and although not as steep, it was very long incline, the tractor continued to slow down more and more. I clicked it to turtle and the engine immediately recoverd and the tractor held it's speed firmly. I had the loader and a aerator on the tractor with tha a/c running on high. :D Sounds like there is nothing to worry about, thanks again.

Brian
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #106  
Jim,

In 10,000 years, there are going to be archeologist wondering about the tractor-centric society that was found in north-texas. There is going to be some head scratching going on. :)

Chris
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #107  
jinman said:
I may be able to give you some comparative info that could be helpful. I'm attaching a picture of a small hill on my property that I cannot climb with my tractor in high range (rabbit or turtle) if I have the loader on (empty) and my boxblade on the rear. If I have the loader off and a mower on the rear, I can just barely climb this hill in high-turtle if I feather the pedal just right to get the most torque to the rear wheels. The engine may smoke out the exhaust because it is normal for a diesel to smoke a little under load.

I can climb this hill in either low rabbit or turtle without a problem, even with the loader on and a scoop full of dirt. I have other hills that are steeper and require low-turtle if the bucket is full, but those are really "suicide" hills. I have twice found hills (in my pond) where I could not climb them in low-turtle with a full bucket (double-full of wet mud) because the wheels would spin even with the rear differential locked.
Jinman, I'm reading this with interest because I see you own both a NHTC45D and a Ford Jubilee. I also have two tractors similar to the Jubilee, a Ford 2000 4-cyl and an MF TO-35. These are all around the same HP, weight, wheelbase.

I've recently been considering if a newer machine like a TC45 could do the same tasks and maybe a little more than the 2000 or MF35. Again all the specs on the bigger TC's seem similar to these older tractors as far as weight, HP, etc. I use a John Deere 616 rotary cutter which is a 6' medium duty type, I believe the predecesor to the M6. I really don't like running this cutter on the 2000 and usually put it on a larger 70HP White. The 2000 just doesn't seem to have enough power. I don't mow any brush, but sometimes 5-10 acres of high weeds or mature rye which stand 4-5 ft tall.

Reading some of the opinions in this current thread it makes me wonder whether a TC would be up to this job; opinions seem to differ. What do you (or others) think? Does the TC seem more powerful than the old tractor? Would I have to stay away from the hydro and/or go with the TC55 or 2420? I think I'd like to be able to maintain at least 3+ mph mowing the bigger weeds/rye on level ground without straining the tractor. It may come down to having the local dealer letting me demo one.
 
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   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #108  
LoneCowboy said:
UPDATE At this point, it appears NH has stepped up.
Very impressive what NH was willing to do for you Brian. Let's hope it's all good luck from here on out! :)

Dougster
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #109  
The 2000 4cyl was nothing more than an upgraded 601.. IE.. the same 134ci red tiger engine that debuted in the NAA in 53. It will run a 6' hog about as well as an 8n runs a 5' hog. This is.. 'pretty' good in average conditions.. assuming a average or better engine. If you are in extreme conditions.. the 8XX/4000 series is a better choice for an older tractor.

70 hp is a bit wastefull for a 6' mower... My ford 5000 ( 67 pto hp / 70 net flywheel hp) runs a 10' mower just fine...

Soundguy

Harold_J said:
I've recently been considering if a newer machine like a TC45 could do the same tasks and maybe a little more than the 2000 or MF35. Again all the specs on the bigger TC's seem similar to these older tractors as far as weight, HP, etc. I use a John Deere 616 rotary cutter which is a 6' medium duty type, I believe the predecesor to the M6. I really don't like running this cutter on the 2000 and usually put it on a larger 70HP White. The 2000 just doesn't seem to have enough power. I don't mow any brush, but sometimes 5-10 acres of high weeds or mature rye which stand 4-5 ft tall.

Reading some of the opinions in this current thread it makes me wonder whether a TC would be up to this job; opinions seem to differ. What do you (or others) think? Does the TC seem more powerful than the old tractor? Would I have to stay away from the hydro and/or go with the TC55 or 2420? I think I'd like to be able to maintain at least 3+ mph mowing the bigger weeds/rye on level ground without straining the tractor. It may come down to having the local dealer letting me demo one.
 
   / DO NOT BUY TC40/45 #110  
Hi Brian
Sounds like once you got NH in the game resolution was quick. Thats a good reflection on NH...once they were aware of the problems they did what it took to get you in a working tractor.

Your 75 is still working well?
 

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