Doubt I can get this old Cletrac running...

[ultrarunner]

Amazing effort and you are doing it right and giving it a second life...

I admire your work and more than that taking the time to post progress pictures along the way.

 

[cqaigy2]

I remember just doing an engine rebuild on a 47 willeys. My parents let me park it at there place, outside of Ellensburg WA. All that wind and dust made for a real challenge.

Thanks for posting your progress on here!

 

[mopardude318]

….from all of your fans on TBN, of course.

Amazing effort and you are doing it right and giving it a second life...

I admire your work and more than that taking the time to post progress pictures along the way.

I remember just doing an engine rebuild on a 47 willeys. My parents let me park it at there place, outside of Ellensburg WA. All that wind and dust made for a real challenge.

Thanks for posting your progress on here!

Thanks guys. I spent a few more days working on it this week. I'll upload pics soon.

mopardude, keep going! If we could assist you we would.:anyone:

Big project with a lot of grunting. Glad I'm two states away! :laughing:

Thank you sir. Everything is heavy. LOL

 

[mopardude318]

So first things first, after cleaning the bull gear, I think it's in rough shape, couple of chipped teeth, some pitting too. This thing has really been through the paces...I think I have no choice but to run it, I don't know how much a good serviceable unit will cost, if I could find one, plus shipping, this thing has to weigh 75 pounds.

Got the front of the tractor all jacked up and on blocks. That was a workout with these cheap old worn out 6 and 8 ton bottle jacks. LOL

So I decided to pull the steering differential assembly, because I found a couple more wobbly gear shafts in there which led me to believe there were more shot and busted bearings in the case, and I wanted to clean the dirty, full of metal shavings sludge at the bottom of the case... So in order for me to pull that out, The PTO shaft, and the PTO bearing (which was shot by the way, it got hot with no oil and had some bluing on it) had to come out, same for the PTO unit itself, which of course is not light.

So this picture here highlights the PTO shaft, underneath it towards the rear, is the transmission, steering diff and final drive oil pump, which also had to come out. Then the 2 great big main caps on each side for the steering differential come off.

Here is the very uncommon gear reduction style PTO drive unit

Here's the whole kit containing everything for the PTO, I may not put it back, I'll clean it all up, rebuild it, and either put it on the shelf or sell it to help buy much needed parts. A lot of these Cletracs did not come with a PTO, so the round cover out back and the rectangular cover on top of the trans case are easy to get.

The bottom stud at 6 'O-Clock, the nut was not there, thank goodness because it would have been impossible to remove, the gear reduction unit sits right there, no tools can fit in there, nothing. I have no idea how on earth you would put a nut on there. So my guess whoever installed it left that one out! it leaked oil at the bottom, it was FULL of HARD greasy dirt clods.

The steer clutch bands are out of the way, the oil pump in the rear had to come out, and I puts these bolts in to help me get a better grip to lift the big giant back braking thing out of there!!! This was HEAVY! (I do not have an overhead crane!!)

Here it is in all its glory. Some of the gears inside are pitted, the bearings are kinda shot and do the shimmy. I just don't know if I'm in the mood to rebuild it...It most likely wont be cheap. I really don't want to deal with gear lash and end play and all that stuff ya gotta do like when ya rebuild the axle on a truck.

Well that's it for now. I have a few days of parts cleaning. My back hurts from lifting that. I shoulda used my Kubota.

 

[spitter]

That bull gear is like a lot of my friends I play hockey with , it has{ Summer Teeth} Some are teeth some are not.:fight::drink:

 

[farm boy00]

So first things first, after cleaning the bull gear, I think it's in rough shape, couple of chipped teeth, some pitting too. This thing has really been through the paces...I think I have no choice but to run it, I don't know how much a good serviceable unit will cost, if I could find one, plus shipping, this thing has to weigh 75 pounds.

Got the front of the tractor all jacked up and on blocks. That was a workout with these cheap old worn out 6 and 8 ton bottle jacks. LOL

So I decided to pull the steering differential assembly, because I found a couple more wobbly gear shafts in there which led me to believe there were more shot and busted bearings in the case, and I wanted to clean the dirty, full of metal shavings sludge at the bottom of the case... So in order for me to pull that out, The PTO shaft, and the PTO bearing (which was shot by the way, it got hot with no oil and had some bluing on it) had to come out, same for the PTO unit itself, which of course is not light.

So this picture here highlights the PTO shaft, underneath it towards the rear, is the transmission, steering diff and final drive oil pump, which also had to come out. Then the 2 great big main caps on each side for the steering differential come off.

Here is the very uncommon gear reduction style PTO drive unit

Here's the whole kit containing everything for the PTO, I may not put it back, I'll clean it all up, rebuild it, and either put it on the shelf or sell it to help buy much needed parts. A lot of these Cletracs did not come with a PTO, so the round cover out back and the rectangular cover on top of the trans case are easy to get.

The bottom stud at 6 'O-Clock, the nut was not there, thank goodness because it would have been impossible to remove, the gear reduction unit sits right there, no tools can fit in there, nothing. I have no idea how on earth you would put a nut on there. So my guess whoever installed it left that one out! it leaked oil at the bottom, it was FULL of HARD greasy dirt clods.

The steer clutch bands are out of the way, the oil pump in the rear had to come out, and I puts these bolts in to help me get a better grip to lift the big giant back braking thing out of there!!! This was HEAVY! (I do not have an overhead crane!!)

Here it is in all its glory. Some of the gears inside are pitted, the bearings are kinda shot and do the shimmy. I just don't know if I'm in the mood to rebuild it...It most likely wont be cheap. I really don't want to deal with gear lash and end play and all that stuff ya gotta do like when ya rebuild the axle on a truck.

Well that's it for now. I have a few days of parts cleaning. My back hurts from lifting that. I shoulda used my Kubota.

If possible, should set something next to it for size comparison and post a picture

 

[radios1]

see what these guys want to repair the gears.. Gear Repair | Equipment Rebuilding Services: Industrial Gearbox Repair

 

[mopardude318]

If possible, should set something next to it for size comparison and post a picture

I'll put a coke can or somethin next to it. it's not very big, but sure is heavy. like a center section from a Dana 60 heavy. LOL

see what these guys want to repair the gears.. Gear Repair | Equipment Rebuilding Services: Industrial Gearbox Repair

Thank you. I called them and sent them pictures of my Bull gear, and other gears to be fixed or rather remade.. I tried to get a price over the phone, he just couldn't quote me. He wants me to send the gears to the California location near Santa Barbara so he can look at them personally. Only 6 hours away, but Hot D@mn, I know shipping won't be cheap. LOL. Not sure if I wanna do that yet, just for a quote. hmm..

I will be pulling all the gears and bearings out of the transmission. Bearings are all shot. So, guess I'll be rebuilding that as well.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Mopardude318 Before you send those gears away you need to decide what you are going to do with the Cletrac. If you are just gong to drive it around for the fun of it and not work it hard then the gears are good enough the way they are. Just debur them with a die grinder and you are good to go. If you want to work the tractor like it was meant to be worked then it's a different story. All the best in your decision!

 

[mopardude318]

Mopardude318 Before you send those gears away you need to decide what you are going to do with the Cletrac. If you are just gong to drive it around for the fun of it and not work it hard then the gears are good enough the way they are. Just debur them with a die grinder and you are good to go. If you want to work the tractor like it was meant to be worked then it's a different story. All the best in your decision!

Yes sir, this is not for show. I do fully intend to put this machine back to work. I've got an embankment to build up. LOL