Doughnut Trailer

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TractorBob1529

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I bought an equipment trailer from a guy for a steal awhile back. Getting ready to use it, I found a tire had went flat. No problem, right, just add air. Well, the rim is all rusted out and air is leaking around the rim. While looking for a replacement I found out the hub/rim assembly if for a "mobile home" setup...doughnut tire. I was told that this setup is really not reliable. I like to upgrade the hub/rim but buying the parts will cost more than the trailer. :confused2:

***Questions*** Are trailer doughnut rim setup reiliable? Should I upgrade the hub/rim assembly?

Here's an article to reference.
 

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I bought an equipment trailer from a guy for a steal awhile back. Getting ready to use it, I found a tire had went flat. No problem, right, just add air. Well, the rim is all rusted out and air is leaking around the rim. While looking for a replacement I found out the hub/rim assembly if for a "mobile home" setup...doughnut tire. I was told that this setup is really not reliable. I like to upgrade the hub/rim but buying the parts will cost more than the trailer. :confused2:

***Questions*** Are trailer doughnut rim setup reiliable? Should I upgrade the hub/rim assembly?

Here's an article to reference.

Never like the trailer house axles,first chance would rip'em out and install new 3500lb ones. Hate to say it but gonna have to spend some money or pass it on to someone else and start over:D
 
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Should I replace just the hub/rim assembly or do I need to replace the axles as well. I price the hub/rim and tires for about $800, axles add another $600 or so.
 
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If you want to keep using it, call your local mobile home mover. They might sell you a wheel and tire for a lot less than those changes.

Bruce
 
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Should I replace just the hub/rim assembly or do I need to replace the axles as well. I price the hub/rim and tires for about $800, axles add another $600 or so.

I myself took the whole axle out and replaced them(peace of mind)and picked up some ford rims for $100 a set,then new trailer tires for $400. I looked up 3500lb axle/hubs(5lug)at northern tool on net.shows them priced at 239.99 then will have to buy rims and tires.But whats your plans for they trailer,hauling tractor?

abctrailerparts.com
Tandem trailer axle kits rated at 7,000 lb. Load capacity include:

1 - Trailer axle with electric brakes rated at 3,500 Lb. with hub drums, high speed bearings, races, grease caps, 10" electric brake backing plate assemblies, four-leaf double eye springs, u-bolt kit and lug nuts.

1 - Trailer axle rated at 3,500 Lb. with hubs, high-speed bearings, races, grease caps, u-bolt kit, four leaf double eye springs and lug nuts.

1 - Tandem hanger kit with six hangers, two equalizer bars, fourteen shackle bolts with nylon lock nuts and eight shackle links.

Cost $423.98

So after all this $800/$900 and can buy a new one for around $1800
 
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My plan for the trailer is for a 10,000lb Kubota KX121 excavator. I definately need some beef to haul that thing. The trailer is a factory Hudson tandem trailer, so I think the axle should be good. I'll check out that setup for sale. :thumbsup: Thanks.
 
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My plan for the trailer is for a 10,000lb Kubota KX121 excavator. I definately need some beef to haul that thing. The trailer is a factory Hudson tandem trailer, so I think the axle should be good. I'll check out that setup for sale. :thumbsup: Thanks.

Yeah,I was thinking it was just a utility trailer,I guess cause that what mine was,should have asked(thought maybe it was shop built trailer)3500lb axles not going to work for that load(twin7k's).But yes should just be able to replace hubs to 6lug,being factory made may have dexter axles under it,are they 7k's?.
 
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Too dark to check right now, but I looked under the trail earlier and it all looks factory, except the "doughnut" hub and rims. I though it was odd when I bought the trailer. Better bit the bullet to beef the trailer and not lose an excavator going down the road. I'll post an update.
 
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Too dark to check right now, but I looked under the trail earlier and it all looks factory, except the "doughnut" hub and rims. I though it was odd when I bought the trailer. Better bit the bullet to beef the trailer and not lose an excavator going down the road. I'll post an update.

Yeah,them axles pretty important when hauling:D Is it a gooseneck? My parents build the trailer I put new axles under years ago,father said he just had those axles laying around and built a trailer.Well I only had to pull it a cple of times before I went to cutting,he admitted they sucked after the fact:laughing: I myself wouldnt trust my work on changing out the hub assembly,its just something I would have to pay for someone to do(mine the tire would probaly fall off) or replace the whole axle cause I trust my welding alot more:laughing:

Well heck power just went out,here.........
 
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Too dark to check right now, but I looked under the trail earlier and it all looks factory, except the "doughnut" hub and rims. I though it was odd when I bought the trailer. Better bit the bullet to beef the trailer and not lose an excavator going down the road. I'll post an update.

Some "real" high grade heavy duty trailer axles use the same wheels. I've heard the visible difference between them and mobile home axles is whether or not the brake backing plates are bolted on(real) or welded on (mobile home).

Bruce
 
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TractorBob1529 said:
I bought an equipment trailer from a guy for a steal awhile back. Getting ready to use it, I found a tire had went flat. No problem, right, just add air. Well, the rim is all rusted out and air is leaking around the rim. While looking for a replacement I found out the hub/rim assembly if for a "mobile home" setup...doughnut tire. I was told that this setup is really not reliable. I like to upgrade the hub/rim but buying the parts will cost more than the trailer. :confused2:

***Questions*** Are trailer doughnut rim setup reiliable? Should I upgrade the hub/rim assembly?

Here's an article to reference.

I personally won't touch them. Too many issues I have seen from my 20 plus years in the business.

That said if they are infact legal in your state to reuse rims, axles, tires are cheap to buy.

Chris
 
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Took the tire off and went ahead and removed the hub. I tooks some pictures and see what you all think. While under the trailer, I found that the axles are made by Dexter. Everything looks factory except the doughnut hub/rim setup. I also mic the spindles and they are setup for HD use.
 

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Those are not MH axles but close.

You can convert them easily to modern hub and wheel setup. I would spend the money and get away from the Pain in the Arse wheels you have.

Chris
 
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Started pricing the parts. A little under $1,000.00 so far. Those were Dexter hubs on the trailer.
 
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Started pricing the parts. A little under $1,000.00 so far. Those were Dexter hubs on the trailer.

My 2cents would be to sell it and start over,just dont see you(or should say I wouldnt be) pulling that 10,000lb kubota on it..Sorry:D I would suggest a 14k trailergooseneck trailer.jpg (I suggest the lowboy cause I know what its like walking the Hoe up the regular deck trailers)but I know some dont like the GN(I think they are great when hauling heavy loads),so a bumper pull in equal size,if you got the truck for it...


Even at 10k you are close to the top max load,this is mine with 10-1500lb bales on it(yes im over-loaded:D)hayhauling pics.jpg
 
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Took the tire off and went ahead and removed the hub. I tooks some pictures and see what you all think. While under the trailer, I found that the axles are made by Dexter. Everything looks factory except the doughnut hub/rim setup. I also mic the spindles and they are setup for HD use.

Everything is factory. Look at the Dexter site. They still sell all the parts or you can swap to new hub/drums.

Dexter Axle - Trailer Axles and Running Gear Components - Hub Kits 5.2K-6K
 

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