Drawbar ignorance

/ Drawbar ignorance #21  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I haven't used the 3pt drawbar and wonder what keeps it from pivoting in lift arms and putting pressure on ball hitch. Seems ball would be trying to pry itself loose from hitch under heavy load. Any answers to this? )</font>
You're exactly right about ball-type couplers. Only pin-type couplers should be used with the HORIZONTAL drawbar.

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/ Drawbar ignorance #22  
You can use that type of drawbar a lot easier if you use a drawbar lock. They will not fit all lift arm's though.
I had a pic on my computer, but I guess I dumped it.

Edit..........
Found a poor pic, but here it is.
 

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/ Drawbar ignorance #23  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You can use that type of drawbar a lot easier if you use a drawbar lock. )</font>
Understand. THIS picture might make things a bit more clear.

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#24  
Thanks for all your help guys. Now that I'm convinced this tractor thingy is more involved than I thought, I think it's time to go buy something.
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #25  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Would a toplink prevent the lifting of the towed item??
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Not if it's connected in typical 3pt fashion where the entire assembly rises together in a parallelgram fashion as viewed from a side angle. The only way to keep it from rising is with some kind of limiting device (chain, bracket etc)

Andy
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #26  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I think it's time to go buy something. )</font>

Yeah - a manual! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #27  
Down at the tractor store you will find some straps with one end bent at an angle with a hole in it. On the body of the strap there will be a slot. If you take two straps and place a bolt through the slots you will create an adjustable strap that runs from the place where the drawbar goes into the lift arms. The other end pins in the place where the top link attaches to the tractor. Using 4 straps to create two of these gadgets you will find any lifting force on the drawbar forces the front of the tractor down. When looked at from the side the tractor, lift arms and straps create a triangle effect. It's cheap and it works. The straps are usually painted red. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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#28  
DocHeb

Buy a manual? That would be the logical, easy, smart thing to do. Therefore don't count on it.
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #29  
Picture of a homemade three point hitch. Lots of others out there that have real nice sing receivers. Note the fixed drawbar on the bottom.

Just for interest in farming country with larger tractors almost all the equipment is pulled from a draw bar. Three points are not used.

Egon
 
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/ Drawbar ignorance #31  
This has been an interesting thread for a farmer to read. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Swinging drawbar is the only thing I knew for the first 7 years of my life, 'til dad got a tractor with 3pt.

I see on most compacts & sub compacts, the 'swinging' drawbar is actually fixed. On a real tractor with some dragging implements you need to let the drawbar swing from side to side so you can make corners at the ends of fields. It also helps you hook up implements a lot easier.

I have found the bar with holes in it to go on the 3pt arms to be a rather wortless thing, as it pivots & swivels and you can easily lift the bar too high & damage things and it has no down pressure so it is _VERY_ dangerous with loads that are heavy in back or going down a hill (I frequently haul 24,000# of corn behind a tractor, going downhill with a 3pt hitch and the wagons would push the hitch upward & break things...) and so on. However I do have an old swinging & extending drawbar that fits on the 3pt, this is very handy, as long as I am careful on the down-hill issue. (Would not be hard to fabricate grom a 3pt hitch bar...)

The little clamp that several pictured here helps also, as well as the limiting chain that keeps the 3pt down - tho that defeats the ease of use of lifting & lowering the drawbar to some extent. But for anyone using the 3pt to hook trailers & the like to - that chain is _real_ important.

I'm still curious about the original question tho - what was the question??? The fixed or swinging drawbar is the best place to tow from, and a chain works great with a clevis & hitch pin, and since about 25 of my implements have a regular hitch you just back up & drop a pin in, or if you use ball couplers you bolt a ball hitch into it.

What was the question? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

--->Paul
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #32  
I guess my question was answered indirectly. There is nothing to stop 3pt dbar from pivoting in lift arms?
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #33  
<font color="blue">There is nothing to stop 3pt dbar from pivoting in lift arms?
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By default, no. However there are lots of options to do so. There are products you can buy or make that will do two things. Prevent the 3PH from moving up (chain to fixed drawbar for example) as well as prevent the 3PH cross drawbar from twisting or pivoting.

Kevin
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #34  
Seems if one was so inclined to move their boat or utility trailer around with a tractor, they could mount ball directly to drawbar. If it was a tractor with big tires and turn radius was a problem, an adjustable length drawbar like my Super C has would seem more stable and avoid the lift float and rotation problem inherent with 3pt drawbar. Unless seriously overloaded, I guess I can't figure using my tractors for towing utility trailers around anyhow. I have the truck for that. Maybe for parades- or the Louisiana hayride.
 
/ Drawbar ignorance #35  
<font color="blue"> This has been an interesting thread for a farmer to read </font>
It's good to have "real" farmers contributing on TBN. Nothing in my tractor manuals refer to the drawbar as "swinging". That was something I picked up on another thread here. Doesn't make much sense, but somehow I got the impression every drawbar qualified, whether mobile of fixed. Mine is definitely the fixed variety. I think I have it straight now. Some of us have never seen a real swinging drawbar, so I appreciate the clarification.

OkieG (non-farmer, in case you couldn't tell) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
 

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