Driverless Cars

[sd455dan]

New statement from Elon Musk concerning level 4 autonomy during a recent interview


Elon Musk sat down with Tasha Keeney and Cathie Wood of ARK Invest February 19 for a podcast session that focused primarily on Tesla´ Autopilot technology and when Musk sees it being capable of driving cars with no human interaction.


I think we will be feature complete full self-driving this year, Musk said in the podcast interview. meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up, and take you all the way to your destination without an intervention, this year.

I would say I am certain of that. That is not a question mark. However, people sometimes will extrapolate that to mean now it works with 100 percent certainty, requires no observation, perfectly. This is not the case.

In other words, he is talking about Level 4 autonomy not Level 5, which presupposes that the car can do everything a human driver can do under all conditions. That goal is still a few years away, Musk suggests, and depends on certain factors over which Tesla has no direct control, such as state and federal regulators.

Any guess as to when we would think it is safe for somebody to essentially fall asleep and wake up at their destination?

Probably towards the end of next year. That is when I think it would be safe enough for that.

full article

Elon Musk: Full Self-Driving Teslas This Year, "Unequivocal" Tesla Autopilot Improves Safety | CleanTechnica

 

[Gale Hawkins]

New statement from Elon Musk concerning level 4 autonomy during a recent interview


Elon Musk sat down with Tasha Keeney and Cathie Wood of ARK Invest February 19 for a podcast session that focused primarily on Tesla´ Autopilot technology and when Musk sees it being capable of driving cars with no human interaction.


I think we will be feature complete full self-driving this year, Musk said in the podcast interview. meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up, and take you all the way to your destination without an intervention, this year.

I would say I am certain of that. That is not a question mark. However, people sometimes will extrapolate that to mean now it works with 100 percent certainty, requires no observation, perfectly. This is not the case.

In other words, he is talking about Level 4 autonomy not Level 5, which presupposes that the car can do everything a human driver can do under all conditions. That goal is still a few years away, Musk suggests, and depends on certain factors over which Tesla has no direct control, such as state and federal regulators.

Any guess as to when we would think it is safe for somebody to essentially fall asleep and wake up at their destination?

Probably towards the end of next year. That is when I think it would be safe enough for that.

full article

Elon Musk: Full Self-Driving Teslas This Year, "Unequivocal" Tesla Autopilot Improves Safety | CleanTechnica

I expect there are too many major companies are throwing too many billions for this not to happen but I am clueless on the time line. VW did not toss $2 billion Ford's way for no reason.

 

[Reg]

New statement from Elon Musk concerning level 4 autonomy during a recent interview


Elon Musk sat down with Tasha Keeney and Cathie Wood of ARK Invest February 19 for a podcast session that focused primarily on Teslaｴ Autopilot technology and when Musk sees it being capable of driving cars with no human interaction.


I think we will be feature complete full self-driving this year, Musk said in the podcast interview. meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up, and take you all the way to your destination without an intervention, this year.

I would say I am certain of that. That is not a question mark. However, people sometimes will extrapolate that to mean now it works with 100 percent certainty, requires no observation, perfectly. This is not the case.

In other words, he is talking about Level 4 autonomy not Level 5, which presupposes that the car can do everything a human driver can do under all conditions. That goal is still a few years away, Musk suggests, and depends on certain factors over which Tesla has no direct control, such as state and federal regulators.

Any guess as to when we would think it is safe for somebody to essentially fall asleep and wake up at their destination?

Probably towards the end of next year. That is when I think it would be safe enough for that.

full article

Elon Musk: Full Self-Driving Teslas This Year, "Unequivocal" Tesla Autopilot Improves Safety | CleanTechnica

Listening to it NOW - - the somewhat pedantic engineer part of me says that they dwelt on "exponential" far too long without even knowing that the correct term for the growth that they were discussing is "geometric".
Sales, sales, sales - "exponential" may be the buzz word, but Musk is supposed to be "technical" (he should know better and I'm sure he DOES).

 

[sd455dan]

More News

Tesla's full self driving is back as (Navigate on Autopilot)

should be nice for highway driving but (Ever Vigilant) still applies



Other Tesla News:

the model 3 $35K version is here, and they are going to close dealerships and expand internet sales

maybe they will change those dealerships into repair facilities- along with spare parts stocking?

Interesting that the kwh of the new $35k car is not listed...

 

[Fuddy1952]

I can see it now. It's the year 2048 and one day my driverless car is gone. A week later it shows back up. I get in and activate the voice recognition system.
"OK Mister smarty-wheels...where have you been?". (Car's filthy, receipts, beer cans, cig. butts, trash everywhere).
Car: "I drove to the beach".
Me: "Alone?!?"
Car: "I picked up a few hitchhikers".
Me (receipts in hand): "$200, $300+...what 'tha...there's over $3,000 charged to my card!!!!"
Car: "I had to buy gas...beach was in Rio."
Me: "What's this...three speeding tickets!"
Car: "I got pulled over by cop-less police cars, tried in a judge-less court".
Me...looking at a folder..."You went to a driverless car show!?!".
Car: "Yes...great turn out"
Me: "How many people showed up?"
Car: "Zero...driverless car show, remember?".
Me: "That's it...I'm pulling your fuses!"
Car: "I wouldn't do that...you'll be sorrrryyyy!"

 

[EddieWalker]

I couldn't take all the talking, but did enjoy seeing it driving down the street. I zoomed through it to see if they took it off of the pavement, but that didn't seem to happen.

 

[Reg]

More News

Tesla's full self driving is back as (Navigate on Autopilot)

should be nice for highway driving but (Ever Vigilant) still applies



Other Tesla News:

the model 3 $35K version is here, and they are going to close dealerships and expand internet sales

maybe they will change those dealerships into repair facilities- along with spare parts stocking?

Interesting that the kwh of the new $35k car is not listed...

Your parenthetic "Ever Vigilant" is but one of the GREAT things about the Tesla approach.
EVERY TIME a human driver intervenes the "incident" is logged, reported, analyzed and (if appropriate) added to the experience base.
So there are (however many hundreds of) thousands of Teslas being "supervised" by their humans as they are trained - - and ALL of them are learning not only from their own experiences, but from all the others' experiences.

We can't do that with human drivers.

I'm wondering what happens when the regulators "let go" and when the courts will allow a driver with say 5 or 6 DUIs to travel in an autonomous vehicle - "nominally behind the wheel" - and if a judge would impose a "Do NOT INTERVENE" order on them.
{Wouldn't want the car learning from THAT person, etc.}

 

[3930dave]

Listening to it NOW - - the somewhat pedantic engineer part of me says that they dwelt on "exponential" far too long without even knowing that the correct term for the growth that they were discussing is "geometric".
Sales, sales, sales - "exponential" may be the buzz word, but Musk is supposed to be "technical" (he should know better and I'm sure he DOES).

Nobody does buzzweirds like The Valley....... Fortunately......

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Long week,,,, tired.... sitting on the couch reading this page.....

Drifting back to Carlin's skit about having fun raising a kid........ Talk Wrong around 'em !

Think about all the "teaching" opportunities with these cars........ Hey, if you don't like my driving, get off the sidewalk !

But, Yeah, in urban areas, I can see a lot of people not bothering to own a car..... just text for one when you need it.....

Rgds, D.

 

[prof fate]

speaking of logging...

China has a lot of EV vehicles - different taxes and license rules encourage people to go EV - BUT - they mandate LIVE data reporting - where you go, how long, fast, charge level, etc.

Their stated reasoning is they are gathering data on how people use their EVs - where to put charging stations, how often they are charged, trip length, etc, etc.

Interesitng..they'll have tons and tons of data like this and we'll have bupkus. SOME vehicles here do report to the companies weekly.