Driver's nightmare.....

[Hank]

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It's really unfortunate that certain breeds have acquired a bad rep, such as pit bulls and rottweilers. For the most part, the main cause of the problem has been bad owners, who acquire these breeds solely for the purpose of "attack dog" characteristics. I have known many pit bulls and rottweilers who are gentle as lambs. I have also met many who I would not trust with any member of my family. These breeds have the innate characteristic of an attack/kill dog, and if the owner trains to bring out that characteristic, then it's a problem. However, if the owner trains for a normal family dog, then these breeds can be very safe. Heritage also plays a big part.

Some states have enacted laws specific to these two breeds. I know, having just left Montgomery County MD, that if one of these two breeds is found loose, it is condemned. The law is saying that if the owner is "irresponsible" enough to let a pit bull or rottweiler run free, then that owner will not get that dog back.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

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I think a pit bull on it's own can be relatively harmless, but think back to almost every attack story you hear involving pits or rotts. It's usually when there are two or more dogs together. It can be 2 pits or 2 rotts or a pit and a shephard, almost any combination that includes at least one pit or one rott.

Once the pack mentality kicks in then it's gonna be horrible. Guaranteed. There are the occasional stories of one dog attacking, but when it involves serious maulings or death, there's almost always two dogs together. It's almost like they try to outdo each other.

Two stories just recently. Those great big dogs that killed that woman in her apartment hallway several months ago, I can't remember what the breed was called. Two pit bulls killed a little boy last year. Two pit bulls tore through a screen door and mauled an old lady sitting in her own living room.

Why? Why would those dogs break in just to attack an old lady. They were well raised, well fed, family pets, that managed to get out of the yard one day. Someone left a chair too near the fence or something and they vaulted on over. If I see a dog on my property and I am out walking about I don't get too awful nervous, but if I see two, I make a beeline for the house. The pack mentality is what I think the culprit is.

 

[kokopelli2]

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yeah pack mentality can really get dogs in trouble. dont forget about the dauchsund that killed an infant last year by pullng him throught the grates of his playpen and eating on his way up or the pomeranian that did the same thing when the owners thought it was cute the dog and the baby sleeping together.

i cant tell you why any dog would go and kill and little old lady. i can tell you that something turned a switch in their heads, maybe a smell, a noise or something like that....i am not trying to make excuses for viscious animals, but animals dont do things for fun like humans do. they do it for food, space, or protection not just for the fun of it like humans.

like i said before i dont let any of my dogs around un-dog trained kids that is the start of trouble. kids do things that get dogs riled up and then the dog gets in trouble. i hate that. the owners shouldnt put the dog in that situation and parents should teach their kids about dogs. cats, animals at an early age even if the parent themselves are afraid of animals.

 

[Wingnut]

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Sorry ... didn't mean to give the impression that I "hate" all pit bulls or all pit bull owners .... the problem is (IMO) that it's a vicious circle .... pit bulls have a (well earned) rep ... so a certain type of person commonly acquires them .... doesn't know how to train and handle the dogs ... and the story goes on. The reason the story I related from Midland, Michigan bothers me so much is that these 2 dogs have been wandering loose .... because of an irresponsible owner ... even after pretty good evidence showed that the dogs were already killers.
My wife is a real Rott lover ... felt really bad when she got sick and had to give away her huge Rott (Caesar) .... and I enjoyed the big guy when I went to visit (obviously this was years before we married) ... he was a big baby .... but he also didn't get out of the yard except on a chain ... and didn't run with other dogs.
I have a much greater problem with owners than dogs .... being able to afford a license is not evidence of the ability to properly raise a dog.
Again ... no offence was meant towards you or your dogs ... I just happened to jump in on the "pit bull" thread because it's still very fresh here ...

pete

 

[Anonymous Poster]

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Hank, this is the picture of Elvis. What a weiner. He always looks like he just did something wrong, and if the chicken feather laying behind him is any indication, he may have.

 

[Hank]

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<font color="purple"> He always looks like he just did something wrong </font>

He looks pretty laid back /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

My wife always captions that "look":

"It was another dog that looks just like me. Honest!!"

 

[kokopelli2]

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wingnut....i take no offense to you or others for having reservations about pitbulls. since obtaining one of these dogs i find myself sharing all the knowlege that i can with people so they dont want to kill theme all. it comes down to any dog can bite a person. its unfortunate that when pitbulls do this they do it very well.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

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I love that dog with all my heart but I'm not blind. He's ugly as a mud fence. He's a greyhound sharpei cross. He's wrinkled where he shouldn't be, skinny where he should be meaty, has tufts of hair at the tips of his ears that make him look alarmingly like the flying nun from the back. But what he lacks in pretty he make up for in spades in heart and courage. I've seen him go after a five hundred pound sow, tried to tear the fence down to get to her because she came running at me, squealing, wanting to be fed. It took him forever to get to where he could deal with the pigs and their weird ways.

 

[kokopelli2]

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did you know the sharpei is a fighting dog? this is why he will go after a 500 pound so without flinching. i bet he is not afraid of anything, and he is fast too! the sharpei was the best known pit fighting dog in all of the far east until the western mastiffs came over with marco polo! they are almost as scary as chows!

 

[Anonymous Poster]

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Hmmm....he sure has his moments. I don't think he's really scared of anything, but he's nervous, jumpy. You're right, he is fast as lightning. He 'leap' runs. Make ssense? Like a deer. Large birds of any kind drive him to distraction. If a hawk or sand hill crane flys over he will run under them until he meets a fence. He's a character.