Drove the Titan

[BIGUN]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I wish I could find a Titan here at that price. The 2X4 here was $33,500.)</font>

I did a quick check of the dealer inventory around the Tulsa area and supplies are limited but there are some in the 23-24k range if you are looking for the XE trim line.

I wish Trescrows would quit promoting these trucks. The supplies being limited and the demand high will make it impossible for me to get a good deal on one. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[TresCrows]

"My 99 Silverado ext cab 4x4 with 4:10's runs upper 7.7x per the G-tech pro if I don't spin the tires to much or to little. Typical is 7.8's. Dealer Mech's have commented about it's power, must have a good one."

I have no doubt that your truck is a great machine /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif but you cannot compare your times to a magazine artical. Your truck would have had to be there using the same equipment and drivers. If it had been there--the Titan would have beat it--that is my bet /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. BUT, look at it this way, your 99 is almost as fast as the newest trucks and has served you well and what does it matter if a Titan or the latest Dodge is ever so slightly faster. I was using the "faster and quicker" for the same reason PM did--for comparison. In real life use it is not that big a deal--unless you plan on racing a guy in a Titan in which case you will loose most likely /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.
The sticker on the window with equipment lists Dana axles--that is what I saw--Dana, not "Dana type." Several articals have said the same thing. I and they could be wrong but I am pretty sure they were listed in bolden print on the sticker, front and rear limited slip Dana axles with ABTC, acitive brake traction control.
Look, there is no best truck /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif, it is whatever you like and feel comfortable with /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. The good news is there is now another player in the full size arena and it is the Titan and everything I have read and my little drive in one confirms that it is a very good truck--better than the F150 ?--well--sometimes best is not something we can measure with a stop watch or tape measure--it is what's inside. It is how the machine protects in an unfortuante crash or how it holds up to towing and repeated heavy loads. It is measured by each time you get in it--do you trust it--do you enjoy it each time you use it--do you not regret buying it--all these things are what really counts and PM or Motor Trend cannot measure those things. They measure 0-60, stopping distances etc /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. I guess we will have to wait and see if the Titan has guts for the long haul, my bet it's got game /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
JD Powers is something of a measure of the above qualities I mention, Toyota and Nissan generally do pretty good there, so do some other vehicle appliances as well. Ought to for what the things cost /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Meanwhile back at the ranch, unless your trucks are souped up and they may well be /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif, best not get in a stop light drag with a guy in a Titan (or woman) because most likely you will be seeing their rear end view. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif J

 

[TresCrows]

"I did a quick check of the dealer inventory around the Tulsa area and supplies are limited but there are some in the 23-24k range if you are looking for the XE trim line.
I wish Trescrows would quit promoting these trucks. The supplies being limited and the demand high will make it impossible for me to get a good deal on one."

Bigun, I think I am waiting till next year so I can evaluate the new Toyota Tundra and their new "small" truck as well. No hurry here /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Seems like prices in Okie land are different. I might drop by there again and photo the sticker if I can.
Bad news, the first year at the Canton Mississippi plant, the production is limited to 100,000 units as they ramp the line up. Supplies of the Titan will probably be tight all year. Many are presold sight unseen /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif. The PM artical as tested price was 36,000 dollars--a loaded out vehicle. I never have paid sticker--do you. Don't get in a hurry and you should be able to find a Titan for a reasonable price /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Good luck. If you get one let me know what you think--so far I am the only one who has actually driven one /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif--and I LIKED it and I am pretty darn particular about things.
As to you Okies--LSU kicked your rears /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif and if we had a national playoff they would kick USC rear as well, that is my bet /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. LSU, number 1. J

 

[CTyler]

Like I said it sounds like a nice truck(nicer than mine) with some spunk. I'm not into drag racing my 4x4 I just put up some comparison numbers. I'd love an auto five speed in mine since the low end torque is kinda flat until 3k pulling a load.

 

[thcri]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Please don't think I am running the new Ford down. It has certain qualities that are hard to put on paper that despite it having the least horsepower (save for the smaller Tundra engine), the slowest zero to sixty)</font>

I guess I never really looked too deep into it, but when I look up the horsepower of the Chevy 5.3 it shows HP at 285@5600RPM's and torque at 295lbs@4000. The new Ford shows HP of 300@5000RPM's and torque of 365lbs@3750 RPM's. I took these numbers off the chevy and ford web pages. I don't know where PM got their numbers unless they compared the 4.6 engines. I have a new Suburban that did walk over my 2001 F150 but it doesn't hold a candle to my new F150. From a dead stop to 60 my F150 would whale on the suburban. But I don't care. I look for comfort, reliability and support.

I own a business that has 43 vehicles in the fleet. Which is the most reliable you ask?? Yep for over 15 years now we have monitored all of our trucks that we typically run to about 90,000 miles and then trade in. I think you all would be surprise which vehicle has the least and most repairs on an average.

murph

 

[BigDave]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I cannot remember the last time I personally opened the hood on my Tundra, I think it was 50,000 miles ago when I bought it . You see, that is a difference I notice between domestic owners and import owners--you domestic owners are reconciled to maintenance and breakdowns whereas we import owners are spoiled by no maintenance or break downs (that is sure to send poison arrows my way ). )</font>

No poison arrows, just different experiences. The first I ever looked under the hood of my Lincoln, even including when I was buying it, was around 40,000 miles when I was asked at a detailer if I wanted my engine detailed. It looked quite clean, so the answer was no. With my F150, I got my first tune-up a 62,000 miles. The mechanic came out to show me my air filter that was close to falling apart in his hands. He was shocked when I told him it was the original filter. No maintenance required. Now you know I had problems with my Toyota, but you reminded me that I used to tinker with my Suzuki an awfully lot. The front hubs (4wd) would get this ticking sound in them every couple months. I would take a hub apart, find nothing wrong, put it back together and the sound would be gone. One time my 4wd lever got jammed, and wouldn't move. Again, I took the transfer case apart, found nothing wrong, other than the lever out of place, put everything back together and it worked fine. The was an odd little vehicle.

 

[BigDave]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The Heritage was very bad on the crash test, while the new one was very good. )</font>

The old F150 scored a poor in the offset crash test by the insurance institute, but scored an excellent in the head-on and side-impact crash tests by the NHTSA. So turn into the crash or turn away from from the crash, just don't be wishy-washy about it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Tractors4u]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I think you all would be surprise which vehicle has the least and most repairs on an average.
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I'm guessing<font color="blue"> FORD </font>!

 

[jyoutz]

Yeah, I'm real happy with the standard 5-speed transmission and I think I have 3.55 gears. With the torque and engine compression the 3.55 differential works great. I think that it accounts for the 18-20 MPG that I get. One other thing that amazes me is this motor gets the same fuel economy loaded, towing or empty. And the reserve acceloration when towing is exceptional. I have seldom found the floor with the throttle pedal. All in all, the most fun and best performing vehicle I've ever owned.

 

[jyoutz]

I'm not into racing, but I'd like to see the Titan out-run my Dodge-Cummins in a meaningful, real-life situation (fully loaded trailer on a mountain grade on the Interstate). Heh, heh! No I'm not knocking imports. I love my Dodge-Cummins truck and also my Nissan Sentra (especially the 38 MPG).