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   / dump truck/tow veichal #21  
RedNeckRacin said:
so back to my original question, "what defines a farm truck?" I have read some about this but if you were to plate a truck a farm truck what are the stipulations? I know you can only drive it 150 air miles, not out of state and it has to be for farm products or something along those lines. Anybody else have any better information for clarity?

I think you mean "farm truck" in respect to registration. This exemption allows you to drive 150-200 miles from your farm & back, for farm business only without the need of a CDL.

If you mean "farm truck" as in the physical condition of the truck, it usually means a truck that's deteriorated into a truck that can't be fit for use on the road unless you want to spend a ton of money on it.
 
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   / dump truck/tow veichal #22  
Builder has it right. Here in Indiana you can drive anything 150 miles as long as its registered Farm and you are either the owner or an employee of the farming operations and its used for farm business.

Chris
 
   / dump truck/tow veichal #23  
As a guy who used to drive semis for a living . . . stay the heck away from old medium duty trucks with air brakes. They're cheap for a reason -- too expensive to keep fixing. Air brake issues will drain your budget like nothing else. Besides, theres nothing quite like watching your "parked" truck slowly creep down a hill.

The "always getting stuck" part is true too. I sold my Chevy 3500HD dump truck because I kept getting tired of getting it stuck everywhere. I bought a 4x4 1 ton
dump to use instead.

But, yeah, rust-free older 1 tons 4x4 are rare.
 
   / dump truck/tow veichal #24  
so, i meant registration wise what are the stipulations about putting farm tags on a truck?

thanks builder i knew what you meant by the rust buckets but that wasn't what I was refering too.
 
   / dump truck/tow veichal #25  
RedNeckRacin said:
so back to my original question, "what defines a farm truck?" I have read some about this but if you were to plate a truck a farm truck what are the stipulations? I know you can only drive it 150 air miles, not out of state and it has to be for farm products or something along those lines. Anybody else have any better information for clarity?

The 150 airmiles is for CDL exemptions...

Since you are in PA...here are PA's FARM RULES...:rolleyes:

Depending on how you plan to use your trucks, several options other than registration may be available to you that can lower your costs. The PA Vehicle Code provides farmers with the option for a Farm vehicle exemption for trucks used near the farm. Farmers must however obtain a biennial certificate of exemption from PennDOT for each exempt truck.

There are two main types of exemptions available to farm trucks. Restrictions in distance from the farm and use of the vehicle apply to each vehicle type.

The Type I Exemption can be obtained for a truck or truck tractor that 1) has a gross vehicle weight rating of not more than 17,000 lbs OR 2) has a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 17,000 lbs and bears a valid annual certificate of inspection.

If your vehicle is 17,000 pounds or less, you may only drive your vehicle from sunrise to sunset. But if the vehicle is more than 17,000 pounds and bears a valid certificate of inspection, it may be driven at any time of the day.

The Type I exemption allows your vehicle to be driven on roads between: 1) parts of your farm; 2) any of your farms located not more than 25 miles apart; 2) any of your farms and a place of business located within 25 miles of that farm for the purpose of buying or selling agricultural commodities or supplies; or 4) any of your farms and a place of business within 50 miles for the purpose of repair or servicing the farm vehicle.

The Type II Exemption can only be obtained for a truck or truck tractor that has a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 17,000 pounds. You may only operate this vehicle during daylight hours, and it is more limited in the area in which it may be operated than the Type I exemption, but it is not required to bear a valid certificate of inspection.


The Type II exemption allows your vehicle to be driven on roads between: 1) parts of your farm; 2) any of your farms located not more than 10 miles apart; 2) any of your farms and a place of business located within 10 miles of that farm for the purpose of buying or selling agricultural commodities or supplies; or 4) any of your farms and a place of business within 25 miles for the purpose of repair or servicing the farm vehicle.

Pennsylvania Farm Bureau - Association for Farmers and Rural Families in Pennsylvania
 
   / dump truck/tow veichal #26  
Here is the Militarys farm truck.

AS NEW, M 818 MILITARY TRACTOR WITH WINCH. THIS TRACTOR WAS DEPOT OVERHAULED IN 2006, IT HAS NEW ENGINE, TRANSMISSION, TRANSFER CASE, DIFERENTIALS, BRAKES, TIRES,WIRING,LIGHTS, GUAGES, AND WINCH. TOOLBOX IS SEALED CONTAINING MANUALS, AND TOOLS. ALL BRAND NEW. EVERYTHING ON THIS VEHICLE IS NEW, IT HAS 32 MILES ON IT. JUST RELEASED FROM THE MILITARY. CAN ONLY BE SOLD TO US CITIZENS, NO EXCEPTIONS. VEHICLE CAN NOT BE EXPORTED OUTSIDE U.S.THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME FIND, AND VERY RARE. THE ENGINE CODE IS 94012 NHC250. THE ENGINE BRAKE HORSEPOWER IS 250.0 @ 2100 RPM. THIS IS NOT THE MULTI-FUEL ENGINE, IT IS A DIESEL ENGINE. HAS POWER STEERING AND PINTLE HITCH AND UNDERWATER FORDING SYSTEM. ALSO HAS THE LOWER FIFTH WHEEL COUPLER. HAS TWO SPEED WITH 5 FORWARD GEARS (MANUAL). AXLE DRIVE TYPE IS DOUBLE REDUCTION. BRAKES ARE AIR/HYDRAULIC. COMES WITH SPARE TIRE. FRONT AXLE ENGAGING MECHANISM TYPE = AUTOMATIC. THIS IS A 5 TON TRUCK 6X6, Clear California Title, Proof of U.S. Citizenship required for purchase, Cannot be exported.can email more photos.$20,000
Not sure if this add is legit or not but it looks fun:)
 

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   / dump truck/tow veichal #28  
skeptical said:
As a guy who used to drive semis for a living . . . stay the heck away from old medium duty trucks with air brakes. They're cheap for a reason -- too expensive to keep fixing. Air brake issues will drain your budget like nothing else. Besides, theres nothing quite like watching your "parked" truck slowly creep down a hill.

The "always getting stuck" part is true too. I sold my Chevy 3500HD dump truck because I kept getting tired of getting it stuck everywhere. I bought a 4x4 1 ton
dump to use instead.

But, yeah, rust-free older 1 tons 4x4 are rare.

I kind of agree, but I'd rather have an older air-braked truck over an older juice-braked truck. Old juice brakes are scary expensive to fix. I can fix airbrakes pretty easy & cheap.

Juice brakes are an abortion on bigger trucks. They were never meant to be.
 
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#29  
no didnt go with the above truck, but it did spur an interesting conversation on another board that went basically the same way.

wound up talking about older military duce&half's. (can be had for about $2500)

Farm truck.... to me on my hobby farm, one that is used infrequently, and generally short haul. Im not packing the family up to go camping and pull the camper 300 miles for a trip.

it rides rough, has odd matching tires, no radio, generally an old beater truck.

Mechanically you keep it patched together enough to be "safe" but other than that it gets no attention.

Techincally there is a real "farm truck" title designation, but that wasnt my intent.
 
   / dump truck/tow veichal #30  
schmism said:
no didnt go with the above truck, but it did spur an interesting conversation on another board that went basically the same way.

wound up talking about older military duce&half's. (can be had for about $2500)

And the ones that "can be had for $2500" will drain another $10,000-$25,000 out of your wallet before you can drive it down the road.

Guys, these aren't jeeps or your wive's SUV's, or a F-250, these are huge, heavy, difficult to handle trucks made primarily for off-road use. You woundn't believe the repair costs od the tools required to remove wheels, hubs, etc.

The most sensible "dump" vehicle for 95% of you guys is a nice dump trailer you can pull behind your pickup and put your sub-compacts in. You can take that advice to the bank ;)

Just make sure it's an FDIC insured bank. :D
 

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