dump truck/tow veichal

[schmism]

And the ones that "can be had for $2500" will drain another $10,000-$25,000 out of your wallet before you can drive it down the road.

I beg to differ.

see the thread. (im snap-on)
The Midwest Jeepthing

bought for $3K drove 300miles home from auction.

You wouldn't believe the repair costs od the tools required to remove wheels, hubs, etc.

oh im guessing its just like the tools it takes to remove the wheels on the tractors we have. Seems like you forget that many of us have (at least) a hobby farm. we have CUT's or larger. Ya wrenching on a tractor ant like working on my toyota, or ford. Everything is huge, heavy and overbuilt, difficult to handle... kinda like in the military world. (hmmmmm almost like it was perfect for farm duty)

Granted a $3K dump multi use dump trailer is probibly more practical, it isnt nearly as neat. Get to drive it in the parade, pull the neighbors stuck combines out...

 

[EddieWalker]

The most sensible "dump" vehicle for 95% of you guys is a nice dump trailer you can pull behind your pickup and put your sub-compacts in. You can take that advice to the bank

While I agree that a dump trailer is very handy and cost effective, there are a few limitations to them.

To be practical, you need a seperate vehicle to tow the trailer then what you load it with. Having to hook the trailer up to the tractor and then unhook it seems impractical. There is also a concern of blocking the trailer if it's unhooked while loading.

Manuverablity is another concern. If you have allot of room and don't have to do much backing up, then the trailer is fine. If space is tight or backing a trailer/wagon is a problem, then it's not practical.

Those are the two reasons that led me to buy a used single axle, five yard dump truck. It's not the cheapest way to go, but when it's running, I can move allot of dirt very quickly and effectively by myself.

For awhile there I was looking on ebay at those military dump trucks. Prices seemed reasonable for what you get, but the shear size of them was an issue as was the fact that none of them were close enough to make getting it realistic.

Eddie

 

[skeptical]

And the ones that "can be had for $2500" will drain another $10,000-$25,000 out of your wallet before you can drive it down the road.

Guys, these aren't jeeps or your wive's SUV's, or a F-250, these are huge, heavy, difficult to handle trucks made primarily for off-road use. You woundn't believe the repair costs od the tools required to remove wheels, hubs, etc.

I have to agree with builder entirely. Those that CAN work on medium duty trucks (and have the money to do so) usually won't be be asking if a medium duty truck right for them in a forum like this.

I'm thinking if you have to ask, then a medium duty truck is NOT for you. These trucks are a world of difference from even your 1 ton dually.


Here's a GREAT question to ask yourself -- will your tractor even be able to dump a load of dirt into a medium duty dump truck? Its not even a matter of the height of the lift of the loader -- the bucket has to cycle down to dump the load, lessening that height!

A tractor like the Kubota B-7500 will already have difficulty reaching into a 1 ton truck dump bed from the side. One can't really load up a dump bed from the tail gate end only. One will have to have a large tractor to dump into a medium duty truck.

Then, when you get your medium duty truck stuck while loading it, can your tractor even pull it out?

Just things to think about!

However, if you're still stuck on that medium duty truck, don't let me wreck your fun, go for it!

 

[Builder]

I have to agree with builder entirely. Those that CAN work on medium duty trucks (and have the money to do so) usually won't be be asking if a medium duty truck right for them in a forum like this.

I'm thinking if you have to ask, then a medium duty truck is NOT for you. These trucks are a world of difference from even your 1 ton dually.


Here's a GREAT question to ask yourself -- will your tractor even be able to dump a load of dirt into a medium duty dump truck? Its not even a matter of the height of the lift of the loader -- the bucket has to cycle down to dump the load, lessening that height!

A tractor like the Kubota B-7500 will already have difficulty reaching into a 1 ton truck dump bed from the side. One can't really load up a dump bed from the tail gate end only. One will have to have a large tractor to dump into a medium duty truck.

Then, when you get your medium duty truck stuck while loading it, can your tractor even pull it out?

Just things to think about!

However, if you're still stuck on that medium duty truck, don't let me wreck your fun, go for it!

Thanks, you are a very sensible man. I always got a kick out of the guys who go out and buy their first big truck thinking it's going to be like a pickup. Then they get their first "real" bill for a repair.

You
re also right about the little subcuts reaching the bed of a big dump. heck, my L-39 would barely get over the side on my 4800.

 

[Builder]

While I agree that a dump trailer is very handy and cost effective, there are a few limitations to them.

To be practical, you need a seperate vehicle to tow the trailer then what you load it with. Having to hook the trailer up to the tractor and then unhook it seems impractical. There is also a concern of blocking the trailer if it's unhooked while loading.

Manuverablity is another concern. If you have allot of room and don't have to do much backing up, then the trailer is fine. If space is tight or backing a trailer/wagon is a problem, then it's not practical.

Those are the two reasons that led me to buy a used single axle, five yard dump truck. It's not the cheapest way to go, but when it's running, I can move allot of dirt very quickly and effectively by myself.

For awhile there I was looking on ebay at those military dump trucks. Prices seemed reasonable for what you get, but the shear size of them was an issue as was the fact that none of them were close enough to make getting it realistic.

Eddie

That's why I said "95%".

I'm sure 5% of the guys here on this board could convince their wives to let them buy a deuce and a half for a toy or legitimately need one for work. Guy down the street from me has a deuce toy parked in the side yard. Always bragged about how it could pull my 4800 backwards kicking & screaming. It could if it ran. Been there for about 10 years with a grenaded transfer case. He told me it would cost $10,000 to rebuild. Wife won't let him buy a junker to pull parts off of.

Buy what you need, you look silly if you do otherwise.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

so what would I need to do to title a truck as a farm vehicle? or better yet whats the webpage that has that information?

 

[Builder]

so what would I need to do to title a truck as a farm vehicle? or better yet whats the webpage that has that information?

You need to go to your nearest auto tags store and register your truck as a farm truck and get your farm truck plates. I'm pretty sure you'll need to sign something declaring that you're truthfully using it as a farm truck. There is a lot of restrictions on useage.

Or you could go to PA's website and go into the motor vehicle dept to get more info of registering trucks.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

oh thanks for making it easy builder I guess I could do the research.

 

[Builder]

oh thanks for making it easy builder I guess I could do the research.

Oh I'm sorry, give me your address and I'll come out to your house and do the research work for you.

 

[Rara Avis]

so what would I need to do to title a truck as a farm vehicle? or better yet whats the webpage that has that information?

Do you NOT read this messages in this thread??????


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