Dust mask usage

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AchingBack

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Most of the time I have been wearing a dust mask while operating my tractor. I researched and bought the I Can Breathe, brand. It is made of silk, and comes with replaceable carbon filters. I think it does a very good job of filtering dust, and it cuts down on the diesel exhaust, which can be nauseating at times.

Here is the problem though. I can't keep from fogging up my glasses. I am sure others have this problem while wearing a mask of bandana. It gets tough seeing what you are doing, and makes for dangerous operating.

Not wearing a mask has to be a severe health hazard. Just look at all of the dust that come out of your tractor's air filter when blowing it out with air. I got an unbelieveable amount out of mine today. I can't imagine what the inside of my lungs would look like without the mask.

Anyone out there who has successfully tackled this problem, let us know.
 
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My experience is that if my glasses are fogging, the mask seal around the bridge of my nose is not sealing correctly and needs to be adjusted.
 
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Not all dust masks are created equally. I wear glasses and use a mask when woodworking. There is no problem with sealing and fogging glasses. Another factor to consider is the shape of your face. Some masks may be more compatible than others.

Pic of the mask I use.
 

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Try treating your glasses with one of the products that they make for keeping car windows from fogging.... Dusty
 
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midlf said:
My experience is that if my glasses are fogging, the mask seal around the bridge of my nose is not sealing correctly and needs to be adjusted.

What he said. Also, if your mask is not fitting well enough to prevent fogging, you are probably also breathing unfiltered air that comes in the same way. Unfortunately, with the exception of powered respirators, wearing a well fitting mask is inherently an uncomfortable experience. You have to press it to your face hard enough that there are no air leaks and you need to breathe against all the resistance of the filter. Finally, most of the paper N95 style masks become saturated with moisture from your breath within half an hour and need to be changed.
 
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You can get N95 with exhaust valves.. they help a bunch.

For those just looking for nuisance dust protection, you can get masks that are easier to breath thru.. etc.

Soundguy
 
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AchingBack,

I wear a nice mask with filters during the spring when the pollon is so bad. I bought the filter for $25-30 a couple of years ago at ACE. The filters are replaceable and handle some nasty chemicals as well. I bought it when I was rebuilding two bathrooms that had some mold. The mask worked great.

One thing I quickly noticed is that the N95 masks are pretty useless compared to a good mask. I could work HARD with the ACE mask while the N95 really restricted my breathing. Even getting on and off the tractor is a chore with an N95. Not so with the ACE mask.

I might look funny running the tractor with the mask but I don't cough goo out of my lungs for 24 hours after working.

Later,
Dan
 
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dmccarty said:
AchingBack,

I wear a nice mask with filters during the spring when the pollon is so bad. I bought the filter for $25-30 a couple of years ago at ACE. The filters are replaceable and handle some nasty chemicals as well. I bought it when I was rebuilding two bathrooms that had some mold. The mask worked great.

One thing I quickly noticed is that the N95 masks are pretty useless compared to a good mask. I could work HARD with the ACE mask while the N95 really restricted my breathing. Even getting on and off the tractor is a chore with an N95. Not so with the ACE mask.

I might look funny running the tractor with the mask but I don't cough goo out of my lungs for 24 hours after working.

Later,
Dan
Thanks Dan, and to all who replied. I believe you put me on the right track.

Have a blessed Thanksgiving!
 
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Did anyone mention - Masks may come in different sizes if you are looking at good ones.
 
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mine dont work too well I have to cut a hole in them for the my cigarettes.:eek: :eek:
 
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Not wearing a mask has to be a severe health hazard. Just look at all of the dust that come out of your tractor's air filter when blowing it out with air. I got an unbelieveable amount out of mine today. I can't imagine what the inside of my lungs would look like without the mask.

I am not sure one can equate the engine air filter to one's lungs...not that I am saying that dusk masks are not a great idea.

I just wonder how much air goes throught my lungs VS what goes through an engine in a given unit of time. Say one minute.

My GUESS would be that there is a LOT more flow through an engine than a human nose, in the same period of time.

Anybody up for doing the calculation? Granted it would depend on the displacement of the tractor's engine. Again a guess, but I would expect that the variation in engine displacement would be greater than in human lung displacement...but if we chose an average human and an average tractore engine displacement, how would they compare?

I don't normally feel the need to wear a dirt mask when operating my tractor...but that is just me and I could be off base...
 
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I do when in the dust or when mowing. I've been using the flip up respirators that Lowes sells. When not needed for a while you can flip it down off your face. I carry one in my tool bucket at work too.
 
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I wear a mask when I'm operating the backhoe - otherwise, depending on the wind, I'm sitting in a cloud of fumes. If the tractors moving, I only wear the mask for brush cutting - if you mow a dead rabbit or mouse that has Tularemia, you aerosolize it and can get pneumonic Tularemia. Landscaper nearby died of it a few years back.

I wonder how well surgical masks would work - anyone tried them?
 
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Charlesaf3 said:
I wonder how well surgical masks would work - anyone tried them?

Surgical masks are effective at keeping healthcare staff from spitting into the operating field. They probably catch very large dust particles too, the type that your normal nasal passages would trap anyway. Surgical masks are pretty useless against any type of particle smaller than a fine water mist however.

For user protective purposes (as compared to preventing contamination of the surgical field) surgical masks are helpful only to prevent spread of infectious diseases that are spread by large droplets. Strep, staph and the common cold type pathogens that are most typically spread by contact rather than by air. Essentially, surgical masks are good at stopping spit in both directions. They are very difficult to fit well as they typically have only one elastic and simply cannot be held to your face well enough to create a seal. As such, lots of air you breathe while wearing a surgical mask actually comes around the edges of the mask and is never filtered. Still, to minimize breathing big dust particles and some pollen they would likely be better than nothing.

For infectious agents, fine pollen and potentially toxic dust particles that are spread as very small particles too small to see with the naked eye (droplet nuclei is the technical term), the surgical masks are useless even if they fit properly. The filter media is simply not fine enough to trap tiny particles. Unfortunately, those are exactly the particles that can make it past your bodies own nasal passage filter mechanisms so these are the ones that make it directly to your lung.

Disposable N95s are the next step up in protection and you can get them at Home Depot etc. N95 masks, properly fitted, are appropriate for short term protection against small dust particles and infectious agents that spread through the air (Tuberculosis, chickenpox, measles) but as has been noted previously in this thread, the paper N95s are pretty uncomfortable to wear for long or when you are doing more work than just sitting or standing. If it isn't uncomfortable to wear it probably is not fitted properly and is too loose. The type of exhaust valve Soundguy mentioned helps prevent fogging of glasses and helps exhaling but you still need to draw your breath through the filter media to be effective and that means you are breathing against resistance which is never particularly comfortable. As the masks get saturated with moisture from breathing, they become even more difficult to breath though and paper N95s should usually be changed every 30 minutes or so. (Note: N95s are reusable you just need to let them dry out so you could rotate two or three and they would last many uses).

If someone is really serious about long term (hours) protection you really need to think about either powered respirators (where the motor is pulling air through the filter for you) or at least the multi cartridge passive respirators where you have a larger surface area of filter media. I don't have any experience with the multi cartridge units but the powered respirators are comfortable and very easy to work in so long as you don't mind looking like a space cadet. :cool:
 

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