Easements

[sweettractors]

I have a dairy farmer neighbor who has very large silos. About two years ago, cell phone company placed a repeater on top of his largest silo. He won't tell me what it pays but did say its like receiving rent from a house each month. Poor dairy farmers need all the help they can get now days.

mark

We once had hundreds of dairy farmers in our county and now I think you can count them on 1 hand. It is pathetic. Milk cost more at the store and the dairy farmer gets less for his milk than he did 20 years ago. Something is just not right in the milk distribution business. Ken Sweet

 

[MossRoad]

Good to know of no side effects of the tower. I was assuming that if a cell phone may have potential danger as to brain cancer, that a cell tower receiving million of transmissions and relaying them, could be a slight risk depending on how close you may be to it? The same radio wave that hits the cell phone, hits the towers. Ken Sweet

As I understand it, you have to be within X feet of the antenna before it has an effect on us. Of course, in a few years they could find differently, just as they have found other "hi tech" stuff is bad for you... like cars that don't crumple on impact, lead water pipes and cocaine as an elixir! :laughing:

 

[eepete]

Most cell towers have three sectors. The antennae have a narrow pattern toward their sector (120 degrees) and and it's a narrow beam going out vertically. The signal strength 1/4 of a mile from the antenna is often about the same as a mile out.

Now the closer you are to a tower (as a cell user), the less transmit power your phone needs. So paradoxically the more towers you have (and hence the stronger the signal strength on your phone) the less radiation you get from the phone when you are using it.

As for the signal strength at the ground within 500' of a tower, because of the pattern in the antenna it's not a big deal. When you double your distance to a transmitter antenna, you get 1/4 the energy exposure. The output power (ERP) of these antennas varies, but is usually less than 40 watts. You are far enough away that you are probably getting exposed to more cell energy from the person next to you using a cell phone than from the tower. You get more exposure using WiFi than you would from the tower. Yes, the tower is transmitting all the time but the energy levels are so low (non-ionizing radiation) that it's not a problem.

Think of it this way: A 5 watt audio signal in a speaker that is 1" from your ear is going to sound a lot louder than a 50 watt signal in a speaker that is 250 feet above you and 500 feet away. The energy dissipation rules are the same.

I know this is a hand waving argument, a full blown one would just be too much fun .

The only hazard I can think of being close to a cell tower is if the tower fell over. While in theory the tower crumples within the space around the anchor points for the guy wires, in practice they can fall down straight in one piece. So I would want a tower to be about 1.5 times further away than it is tall. I might also try to get the backup generator so it is blocked by the building at the site to reduce the noise when it's running.

Pete

 

[sweettractors]

Quote The only hazard I can think of being close to a cell tower is if the tower fell over. While in theory the tower crumples within the space around the anchor points for the guy wires, in practice they can fall down straight in one piece. Quote


You forgot about birds flying into all the guy wires. That could be terrible. My Dad was also a Amateur Radio Operator until he died. He worked on all bands and had antennas to match each. A bird did not stand a chance flying thru his yard. Ken Sweet

 

[FarmerGene]

Quote The only hazard I can think of being close to a cell tower is if the tower fell over. While in theory the tower crumples within the space around the anchor points for the guy wires, in practice they can fall down straight in one piece. Quote


You forgot about birds flying into all the guy wires. That could be terrible. My Dad was also a Amateur Radio Operator until he died. He worked on all bands and had antennas to match each. A bird did not stand a chance flying thru his yard. Ken Sweet

No guide wires this tower is a tripod anchored in cement.

 

[sweettractors]

If I had to constantly look at a flashing light on top of the tower, I would charge extra for that inconvenience, on top of the easement fee. Ken Sweet

 

[FarmerGene]

If I had to constantly look at a flashing light on top of the tower, I would charge extra for that inconvenience, on top of the easement fee. Ken Sweet

Ken.......You look at the light with the wrong frame of mind, I tell the wife when see looks at the blinking light to think of the sound of money dropping into our piggy bank .....CA CHING :thumbsup:

 

[sweettractors]

Ken.......You look at the light with the wrong frame of mind, I tell the wife when see looks at the blinking light to think of the sound of money dropping into our piggy bank .....CA CHING :thumbsup:

My wife would think of a sale at the department store. Cha Ching the wrong way. LOL Ken Sweet

 

[dodge man]

First off, the company wants an easement for a fiber optic line, not a tower. The tower sounds like its already up. I have written hundreds of easements for my job, and most of them are signed by the owners for free. Most of these easements are for public improvement projects that can help the land owner, such as sewer and water, so they normally don't get paid for the easement.

I have also written easements for utility companies that are paid for, and it depends on the length and location. If it cuts along the edge of the property out of the way, it doesn't really hurt the value of the property very much. If it goes through the middle of the property, then it hurts the value quite a bit. I have seen these easements go for a few thousand dollars depending on the length down to a few hundered dollars.

A couple of things that should be in the easment. Crop damages, if they damage crops putting in the line, you get paid. Field tile and fences, if they damage anything, they fix it. Idemnification(sp?), if anybody gets hurt or any damage done while they are installing or maintaining the line, its not your fault and they can't sue you.

Something you can ASK for, but might not get, if the line is in your way in the future, they have to move it. Say you want to build something over the line, or some other improvement in the future, they have to move it at their expense. Easements we write for a local phone co-op have that clause written in it. This means it can never really hurt the land owner, because if its in his way, they will move it. You could take a lot less money for the easement if they will put that clause in it.

Good luck.

 

[schmism]

When you double your distance to a transmitter antenna, you get 1/4 the energy exposure.

If your saying that as you move twice as far AWAY from the antenna the amount of radiated power is 4x less.... yes

but if you half your distance TOWARD the antenna you receive 4 times the radiated energy.