Eating Humble Pie

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A puppy won't squeal out when you shoot him,if you shoot him or her right between the eyes with a 22 magnum,of course I'm just kidding........? RICHARD GAUTHIER
 
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I can't bring myself to put puppies and snakes in the same category. No comparison. But if I'm attacked one day by a four foot puppy that wants to kill me, I'll shoot him too. If I can hit him, which I doubt.

It's not that I don't care about a snake's feelings. It's that I know he won't care about mine, and he can kill me just as quick as...well somebody around here can kill him.

You can only avoid them for so long. If you want to put a brain in a snake and suggest that he has feelings then I would a lot rather have him go back and tell his buddies not to go to that crazy ladie's house cause she's gonna try to kill ya, than go back and say, this is a great place, plenty to eat, think I'll move in. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I can't bring myself to put puppies and snakes in the same category. No comparison )</font>

I agree with you........100% plus
 
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You tell em,CINDY. RICHARD GAUTHIER
 
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I grew up in the mountains of PA with three younger brothers. We were all taught to respect wildlife and how to use firearms properly. Not to be Non-PC be we were also raised that in our yard the only good rattlesnake was a dead one. And just for the record I had the courage to look them in the eye...wanted to make sure they were dead. Not saying what I did was right but not going to apologize either.
 
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Fred killed a timber rattler in SC last year and if this story is true then it's the creepiest thing I ever heard, and it reinforces my deep dislike for snakes. I have no reason to believe it's not, I know all the guys at the hunt club and could verify it in a second, but Fred and Jake both swear it's true.

Fred almost stepped on it. It was between six and seven feet long, sunning itself at the base of the tree where Fred's stand was. True. The skin is in Jake's room.

I just went and counted.....seventeen rattles, hanging in the living room off one of the deer racks. The only reason Fred didn't get bitten, is because the snake was stretched out, and curled half way around the tree, and had no time to coil up before Fred shot it. Yeah he could have scared it away and gone on up into his stand, but then he would have had to get down at some point, wondering all the while where the snake was.

The way Fred tells it, he shot it twice. The resultant damage left the snake with no fangs, or anything else in that general physical vicinity. He didn't think the other guys would believe it so he brought it back with him. Had to put it in a empty corn bag as it was still writhing around. When he got back to the house he spilled the snake out on the ground, still slithering around, still rattling and coiling, and it tried to strike a half dozen times. With no head.

He put it back in the bag, tied it with a string and went inside to supper and to bed. The next morning Jake asked Fred what he was going to do with it, were they going to eat it? Fred said he had considered it, initially, but the dang thing wouldn't hold still long enough the night before to skin it, and Fred said he would probably just take the rattles and the skin.

"It's bound to be dead by now."

They went out there to do just that, and found the bag still moving. Dumped the snake out and he tried to strike again, not only that, but tried to slither away and had to be 're-caught'. Fred says it took four guys to hold it down, to remove the rattles and skin the snake. Once SKINNED the snake was still moving and still tried a feeble half strike.

Now some may view this as a gruesome tale of torture, and they may be right, but my position on it is this. A venomous snake, to me, is an evil creature. What else could live that long and still be trying to kill, unless it was nothing more than pure unadulterated meaness and hatred wrapped up in a slimy slithery skin.

Some may cry 'self defense! It was trying to protect itself!' Well, I find myself not really caring one way or the other, and I'm usually a pretty humane person. I know most of the snakes around here that are harmless and I wouldn't harm them, but if this snake had bitten Fred, I know that based on where he was, he would not have made it back alive.

Snakes have routines and regular haunts, just like people, and he and Fred had chosen the same one. Fred won. That may sound harsh or mean, but I think it is just a fact of life. Kill or be killed, survival of the fittest. Whether it's beast against beast or man against beast.

I'm uncomfortable with the 'trophy taking' aspect if the whole deal, but there again, is another thing. When someone comes to the house and remarks on the rattles, they are taken down, handled carefully, passed around and the story comes forth, Fred with his face so serious, Jake solemn and and silent. According to Fred, the rattles hanging in the living room for all to see are a gentle reminder never to take the high grass lightly. The skin hanging in Jake's room, stretched across the wall at the foot of his bed, is a none too subtle reminder to walk the woods with care when he goes off hog hunting by himself.

The snake was sacrificed. I have grown comfortable with it's 'parts' hanging about the house. I understand the logic behind it. I don't always understand everything Fred says and does but usually with time comes understanding. He's taught Jake well, he spotted the snake yesterday and had to point it out to me. I don't care if what he did is considered right or wrong or politically or environmentally correct. I know in my heart that he is keeping himself and my boy safe. That's all I need to know.
 
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A headless snake that keeps trying to strike, just ain't been shot enough times...IMO /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I have killed snakes by using axes/pitchforks/run over them on the road,backed up and spun my wheels on them/locked my brakes and skidded on them/I have used the brush hog on them/siced my dog on them and let him kill them,I have even shot them before and it was not target practice....I even doused one with gas one time and tossed a match on him. No,I don,t like snakes,I have been stung many times by was wasps/bumble bees/yellow jackets and hornets...never got sick once and never died once. I have burned bees/hornets nests and shot hornets nests with high powered rifles,I have brushogged some bees/hornets nests (not on purpose though) never been snake bit though........
 
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Speaking of nearly stepping on a rattler reminds me of the rattles my Dad had from the time I was 6 or 7 years old. All his life Dad liked hunting and eating squirrels, so he started taking me with him when I was 5 years old, and by the time I was 6, he'd have me walking the opposite bank of the creek because he knew I'd make enough noise, and he'd be quiet enough, that the squirrels would move around to his side of the trees, making an easy shot for his .22 rifle.

Then one day when he crossed back to my side of the creek without having fired a shot, he showed me the rattlesnake rattles he had. I asked why he hadn't shot it and he said he was walking along, looking up in the trees, when he stepped on it. He said when he felt it, he just stood still, looked down, and was standing on it so close to its head, it couldn't strike him, so he set his rifle down, picked up a big stick, and crushed its head.

If that had been me stepping on a snake, I'd have probably jumped so high the snake couldn't have reached me. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif And now I'm wondering what became of those rattles because I know they were still laying on the TV 8 years ago when I moved them up from the coast to be closer to us. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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You should find them, they have a great stpry attached to them. Probably tucked into a drawer somewhere.
 

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