EBay Sniping

   / EBay Sniping #21  
You have to be very careful when bidding a high price on an item. I have seen many times when there will be people with "O" feedback pumping up an auction. It makes me think that the seller is using different names. I have seen this many times this year on Kubota tractors. Bidding $1000.00 on a $50.00 could have cost you dearly.
 
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#22  
Some items seem to be more "safe" than others. I recently decided to buy a power inverter so I can use my laptop in the car without running down the computer's battery. Because there were so many inverters, and so few bidders, I ended up buying 3 or them, one for each vehicle. I paid $1.26 + 12.99 shipping & handling, $2.99 + 9.99 s&h, and $6.50 + 8.00 s&h. That's an average of $13.91 each including all costs. Discounted prices were from $28 to $35 each from other sources. In 2 cases I was the only bidder; I beat one other bid for the $1.26 model.

But, you're right, of course. At the time, I was in a jam to fix a race car, and couldn't find the part anywhere. I was actually willing to pay the $1000 if I had to. But, as I said above, it was risky.
 
   / EBay Sniping #23  
Another reason that I like Auction Sniper is that it allows me to build a folder. Lets say I want a rare green widget and after I do an eBay search I find 7 of them meeting my demands. I can add all 7 widgets into the single sniper folder and give each one a different high bid amount, then tell the software that I only want one green widget. When the time comes to bid the software will try its best to get me the widget at my high bid amount. If I am outbid then it reverts its attention to the second widget and the process starts all over again right on down the line. Once I win one widget the rest of the items in the folder are canceled automatically. That way you can be out working on the tractor and still be doing some serious bidding at eBay. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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#24  
That sounds like a great feature. Is Auction Sniper one of the online services? I think I'll Email Auction Scoop and ask them to put that feature in their next revision.
 
   / EBay Sniping #25  
<font color="blue">That sounds like a great feature. Is Auction Sniper one of the online services? I think I'll Email Auction Scoop and ask them to put that feature in their next revision.
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Yes Don it can been seen and used click here
I believe that they also give you the first 4 snipes for free. It is a very low % after that, like 1% if I'm not mistaken.
 
   / EBay Sniping #26  
I use Auction Sniper for a couple of reasons:

1) Placing a proxy bid early just cranks up the price if the other bidders are inexperienced. So if I bid a fair proxy price on an item with more than a few minutes remaining on the auction, it can quickly be bid up past my strike price.
2) My unreliable rural phone connection fails completely in fog or rain, so if the forecast calls for either I use a snipe service and walk away. Otherwise I'm stuck at home with no way to place a bid in the last few minutes.

Pete
 
   / EBay Sniping #27  
<font color="blue">"Otherwise I'm stuck at home with no way to place a bid in the last few minutes." </font>

<font color="red">But...
You can still use that new Unisaw!!!! </font> /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
   / EBay Sniping #29  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue">"Otherwise I'm stuck at home with no way to place a bid in the last few minutes." </font>

<font color="red">But...
You can still use that new Unisaw!!!! </font> /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif )</font>

Yes, and at times I feel like using it on the telephone! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Pete
 
   / EBay Sniping #30  
Thanks Gatorboy. You straightened me out (or helped make my point). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I will continue to use E-bay proxy then, as it will have the "last" split, split second input to the bidding.

Not sure why the outside esniping is beneficial other than the 'book keeping' and/or spreadsheet help (which would be good if bidding a lot).
 
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Something to consider. Once a sniping bid is entered, if it is higher than the current bid, then it becomes a simple proxy bid, just like yours, just entered later. The battle is then fought by the Ebay proxy server, and may the highest bid win!

To make this clearer, use some numbers as an example. The current bid is a $150. You have entered a proxy bid of $200. No one else has bid in the last day or two, so the bidding has not climbed. I enter a sniping bid in the last 3 seconds.

My bid triggers the proxy system. It raises the price to $157.50. Your proxy raises it to $160.00. My proxy raises it to $162.50. Your proxy raises it to $165.00. And so on, until one of us runs out of dollars in the proxy bid.

If my bid was less than $200, you win. If my bid was more than $200, I win. All of this has taken just a fraction of a second. Two seconds later, the auction is over.

Now, what has been gained by sniping? Assume that my bid was for $250. The final bid, therefore, is for $202.50, and I win. If I had placed that proxy bid earlier, it gives you a chance to get back in, enter some additional bids, test how far my proxy bid went, and decide whether you want it badly enough to beat me. You might go up slowly, to $255. You might enter another proxy bid, say to $300, and be ahead of me at $255.

Now, I have a chance to go back in and determine whether I want it badly enough to beat you. And so forth. In this way, the price just continues to go up, until one of us backs off.

By sniping, and assuming that my proxy bid (entered at the last moment) is higher than yours, I simply don't give you enough time to get back in. You can sit and watch the auction for the last 5 minutes, continually hitting your "refresh" button to see if the price has changed. Up until the last moment, you feel secure. You hit "refresh" one final time -- your screen slowly is updated -- and you are shocked to see that the auction is less than 2 seconds from ending, and you have been beaten! You quickly press the "bid" button -- but it's too late. It's all over. That's why sniping is beneficial -- it shuts out the non-snipers.

So, you see, a sniping bid is actually no different than any other bid -- except in when it was placed. As long as it is higher than the current bid by more than the bid increment, it becomes a proxy bid just like yours, and may the highest bidder win!

There is only one conceivable time when placing an early proxy bid will benefit you -- in the event of a tie. If you place a proxy of $200 a day before the end of the auction, and I place a proxy sniping bid 3 seconds before the end of the auction, also of $200, you win because you had the earlier bid.
 
   / EBay Sniping #32  
<font color="blue">Not sure why the outside esniping is beneficial </font>

With proxy, you show up as a bidder right away amd as new bids come in yours is increased. With sniping, you don't show up till the end.
 
   / EBay Sniping #33  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Not sure why the outside esniping is beneficial other than the 'book keeping' and/or spreadsheet help )</font>

To me sniping keeps the bidding from going up too quickly.

I like to decide how much I want to bid on something and let that be the price and not get into a bidding war. The sniping allows me to proxy bid at the last minute and maybe give people the impression that there isn't much interest in the item and maybe the price won't get run up.
 
   / EBay Sniping #34  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I will continue to use E-bay proxy then, as it will have the "last" split, split second input to the bidding. )</font>

Just know that you will ALWAYS pay the same or MORE (most of the time MORE) using the Proxy method as opposed to the sniping method.

If you don't mind paying more for things, then placing a bid early and letting the proxy bidding do the work for you is a good thing.
 
   / EBay Sniping #35  
Good explanation. I will just put my proxy bids in "late" and handle it that way. You all have answered my questions.

Enjoy.
 
   / EBay Sniping #36  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I will just put my proxy bids in "late" and handle it that way. )</font>

When you say late, I hope it's in the last 30 seconds of the auction. Many auctions have the most bidding in the last 15 minutes of an auction -- you will still pay more buy placing a large bid with more than 5 minutes remaining (on most auctions).
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Good explanation. I will just put my proxy bids in "late" and handle it that way. You all have answered my questions.

Enjoy. )</font>

I can understand why you might resist paying a recurring fee and having to reveal your username and password to use an online sniping service. But, the Auction Scoop software I use sits on my computer, does it for me, faster than I could ever do it, doesn't forget, and has no fees. Best $15 I've spent in a long time. Unless you don't have an extra $15, there's no real reason to do it manually.
 

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