eBay/Craigslist eBay Tractor Scams

   / eBay Tractor Scams #21  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You also make note of alternate email addresses in the listing. We do the same. Why? Well our security was compromised when we used to use 1 email address, using the typical EBay info request. Our solution is that we now use another email address STRICTLY for EBay. We will never respond to anyone from that. It is secret to everyone but EBay. When we get EBay mail in our other email boxes, we know they are fake. And believe me, we get lots.)</font>

Perhaps I understood this paragraph wrong, but I can tell you, if you are putting text in your auction descriptions such as "email me at xyz1234@wherever.com for more information", people are going to default into thinking you are a scammer, even if it's not true. If you meant you have one email address you use for ebay, and a different email for all other business related activities, then I think that's a good idea. If you try to deter people from hitting the "ask seller a question" link on ebay's auction pages, people will not believe your auction is legitimate. Most times when scammers post listings, it's through other people's accounts that they have hacked via the phishing email scams. They can get as far as posting auctions, but cannot change the account owner's information such as email address or password, etc, without having ebay notify the owner's original email account that a change was made. This is the reason the scams always request for you to contact the scammer though the email link in the auction text.


I've never had a problem with ebay cancelling my listings, and sometimes I do have what could be considered a policy violation, but not often. Granted, I probably report 10-20 scams every week, not always tractor related though.
 
   / eBay Tractor Scams #22  
Bird, we are pretty much talking about the same thing, just in the buyer vs seller pages. Attached is how it looks on my "my ebay" items sold page. The item in question was paid for, and shipped, but paypal and ebay never updated.
 

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   / eBay Tractor Scams #23  
Hello Jared, let me be clear about the email.

Our email address is posted on our listing. It adds some legitimacy rather than some unknown "blind" request.

WE DO NOT mind when somebody uses the default email aka "ask seller a question". As a matter of fact it evens adds MORE legitimacy for the buyer when we respond with our usual address, and that is okay with us.

What we do not do is respond via the email address we have supplied to EBay. EBay prefers we do but then it becomes a security issue.

As of 2 months ago, when we were fooled with a fake EBay site, that address became secret. Any alleged email from EBay that appears on any other email automatically gets deleted because it is a guaranteed fake.

Detailed emails (both ways), phone calls (both ways) and addresses among many other things add to the legitimacy of a seller or buyer.

The original point was that just because an email is shown in the listing, among other things, it does not mean it is a scam. That point is very moot since BJ clarified his thought, opinions and findings.
 
   / eBay Tractor Scams #24  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( seller has a history of buying and selling tons of cheap junk, ....will have dolls and clothing for 60 transactions and then poof a tractor )</font>

Sometimes it isn't that they have sold a bunch of non-tractor related items, it is that they have stolen someone elses profile. I personally know of a guy that had this done to him. He sold video tapes through ebay and and one time recieved an e-mail to update his account info. The big dummy did it and basically handed his password to the scammers. The scammers goofed up and didn't change his password. He logged in and discovered that he all of the sudden had 4 motorcycles for sale. He promptly changed his password and contacted ebay. The scammers look for targets that have a high rating on their feedback.
 
   / eBay Tractor Scams #25  
Jared, I don't know whether the problem is with eBay themselveds or PayPay, but I did finally get an e-mail from the seller saying that he's waiting for confirmation and that they "should get it resolved pretty soon." /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

And I haven't ever seen a page like your attachment. That's a new one to me.
 
   / eBay Tractor Scams #26  
Its always buyer beware with eBay but you can make money on it. We're moving and I've been cleaning out the closet and garage of old motorcycle atv and snowmobile items. I've listed over 100 items and have sold about all of them.

THen again, I've been taken on ebay even as an experienced seller. I bought train cars and they arrived damaged. The seller said no problem and had them picked up from me. I never heard back from him and PayScam was not able to help either. I called the police in his town and the address he gave was get this, the police station. He was a total scammer.

I prefer to sell and not buy since it is hard to trust anyone on eBay these days..

I would feel more comfortable buying a car that I have to pick up than an LGB train that is mailed to me.
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   / eBay Tractor Scams #27  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I agree that Ebay doesn't care. The same goes for PayPal! Just try to get someone at PayPal to email you. Try to find a phone number. It can't be done.)</font>

OK, I actually just went through this about 20 minutes ago for a shipping address I screwed up and couldn't void. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Paypal phone contact info for premier and business accounts:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone

Paypal phone contact info for personal accounts:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone

I had a couple different phone numbers for ebay at one time, but they have all been disconnected at this point. I know there are some good numbers, but I don't know what they are. If one achieves silver level power seller they give you a toll free number to contact ebay at, but alas, I'm just a bronze level power seller.
 
   / eBay Tractor Scams #28  
How the scammers get your eBay ID, in detail:

I haven't been on eBay for months then last week I listed some tape backup drives.

A few hours later I received the following, addressed to the address I put in the auction description. (I didn't respond):

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Subject: TKO NOTICE: Compromised Account
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:35:27 -0600

In an effort to protect your eBay account security, we have suspended your account until such
time that it can be safely restored to you. We have taken this action because your password
may have been compromised. Although we cannot disclose our investigative procedures that led
to this conclusion, please know that we took this action in order to maintain the safety of your account.

However, your account is marked for too many successful logins last week (January, 20-28, 2005).
It is more interesting that the hostnames are from different countries:

United States (c-67-160-224-80.client.comcast.net)
Canada (HSE-Toronto-ppp304429.sympatico.ca)
Sweden (c213-100-93-27.swipnet.se)
Russia (32.122-140-213.telenet.ru)

Please authorize your registration information on or before February 3, 2005.
Currently registration information will be screened when you login.

Follow the link to make sure you are on a secure eBay webpage.
h t t p s ://signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?SignIn
[I added spaces so this isn't a live link]

Thank you for using eBay!

-------end quote--------

HOWEVER:
'View Page Source' to see the actual message coding reveals you will be taken to the following if you click on their 'signin.ebay.com':

<A HREF="http://gtman.co.kr/signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll.
php?co_partnerid=2&amp;siteid=0&amp;UsingSSL=1&amp;
?JbQqzzFgGCFTgAgAAeJbQqzzFgGCFTgAgAAeHlz9FnXeMW
ZllWXAAAAAuMCwCFBQlz9FnXeMWZllWXS3AlBX+VShqAhQ
RfhgTDrf=https://signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll
?SignIn&amp;UsingSSL=1&amp;pUserId=&amp;co_partnerId=2
&amp;siteid=0&amp;ru=&amp;pp=pass&amp;
pageType=708&amp;MfcISAPI
Command=SignInWelcome
">https://signin.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?SignIn</A>

That's hard to read but it says clicking their link will take you to a website in Korea. I assume their input boxes are surrounded by text from real ebay. However the data you input goes to the scammer.

Some people respond to emails like this then discover they are now in the tractor business.
 
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#29  
Thanks for the info California

That was a great lesson and a warning about internet security and the ability of con men to adapt faster than the rest of us.

I was shocked last night by the amount of loose information on the net and how easy it is to get personal info that you thought was hidden. I was signing up my office manager for Yahoo Instant Messenger and in the process she did a <font color="red"> search</font> to get my email info, guess what popped up??

She was able to see not only every site that I had registered with as a user, ( top of the list was <font color="blue"> </font> ) but even more suprising to me was that each one had a little bit of personal info about me. There was enough there to get a pretty **** good idea of whom I am, what I do etc. So the lesson is be careful what you reveal, even on trusted sites. Google,and all the search engines are very powerful.
 
   / eBay Tractor Scams #30  
new bunch of these put on ebay UK site
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the sad thing is someone has actually bid on one of these
 

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